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Redemption® Collectible Trading Card Game HQ => Deck Building & Design => Type 2 Deck Advice => Topic started by: kram1138 on March 15, 2012, 09:10:03 PM
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Lost souls: 15
Artifacts:
Samaritan Water Jar x3
Houshold Idols
Wash Basin
Gifts of the Magi
Temple Veil
Three Nails x2
Master's Table
Sites:
Chorazin
Kir
Good dominants:
Son of God
New Jeruselem
AotL
Gaurdian
Covenants:
I am Creator
Heroes:
Good Samaritan x4
Generous Widow x2
The Thankful Leper
Elizebeth
Watchful Servant x4
Lazarus
Martha
Good enhancements:
Repentance and Restitution x3
Ambush the City x2
Faith as a Mustard Seed x2
Meeting the Messiah x2
Kindness x2 (or three)
Convincing Miracle x2
Plague of Flies x2
Fortresses:
House in Bethany
Storehouse
Wall of Protection
Jeruselem Tower
Herods Temple
High Places x2
Evil dominants:
CM
Burial
Destruction
FA
Curses:
Blindness x3
Incurable x2
Captured Ark
Evil characters:
Crippling Demon x4
Injuring Demon x2
Demon Behind the Idol x2
Evil Spawn x2
Prince of the Air
Prince of this World
Evil enhancements:
Destructive Sin x2
Lukewarm x3
Leprosy x4
Built on the Sand x3
Sinning Hand x4
Evil Armor x2
Offence is designed to drain the opponent's deck with water jar + wash basin + drawing with Martha, Generous Widow, Repentance and Restitution and Meeting the Messiah. Once the deck is gone, The Leper, Watchful Servant and Convincing Miracle take over.
Defense uses blindness + place enhancements with crippling demon mainly.
Advice much appreciated.
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Two quick at-a-glance thoughts...
1) Add another Water Jar. SWJ is too powerful in T2 to not max out on. With 14 heros (including the Laz) taking out CoF is not a tough call.
2) Your offense will get eaten by a demon defense. One copy of Three Nails is not going to cut it--especially with Gologotha running around. Master's Table would have some potential.
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2) Your offense will get eaten by a demon defense. One copy of Three Nails is not going to cut it--especially with Gologotha running around. Master's Table would have some potential.
Indeed, but also don't forget that House at Bethany will help out, too. Coming across a straight-demon deck without JT would allow you to soul-gen, discard nasty evil cards, and deck them more quickly. But yes, Master's Table would certainly help. I know someone who runs a similar offense, and demons are VERY scary if you can't get your counters out.
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I would not double up on all of your heroes. I can cause a hand clog.
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Fixed.
How is the defense? That is what i am more worried about.
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Just to clarify, King Rezin won't make Rezon Arises or the Pharisees CBN if they're already banded in battle. He only makes banding AFTER he's played (and his own) CBN. Having a Pharisee band chain followed by Rezon Arises that bands Job's Wife in will only end up hurting you as the battle would become your 1/3 Pharisee (or whatever you started the band with) in a FBTN battle.
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I'd go with the standard Proud Pharisee defensive build, but I'm a conformist like that. Using Balaam's D's, Gold Shield's + Night Raids, Just a Hirelings, Tenants Kills the Son. Definitely needs some Proud Pharisees, I'd do four. Don't like 4x Entrapping with him being unique. I usually just run 1 or 2. But that does look like an interesting defense.
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Just to clarify, King Rezin won't make Rezon Arises or the Pharisees CBN if they're already banded in battle. He only makes banding AFTER he's played (and his own) CBN. Having a Pharisee band chain followed by Rezon Arises that bands Job's Wife in will only end up hurting you as the battle would become your 1/3 Pharisee (or whatever you started the band with) in a FBTN battle.
Hmm. Interesting. I used it at a tournament before and i was told it worked.
Don't like 4x Entrapping with him being unique. I usually just run 1 or 2. But that does look like an interesting defense.
Oh yea. My mistake. I forgot about the "The" at the beginning.
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Cards are either CBN(/CBP/CBI) when they are played, or they aren't. They can't retroactively gain CBN(/CBP/CBI) after they've been played.
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I changed the defense. I realize that they don't fit together well, but this defense is really fun.
I have a quick question. Sinning hand reads:
Any player may discard half the cards in hand (rounded down) to negate this. Otherwise, it cannot be interrupted.
Can they still discard half their hand to negate it if when it is played against a hero with Built on the Sand placed on it?
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No. If a Hero has Built on Sand, then your opponent can't negate it with either their own card, or by discarding half of his hand.
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So your strategy, in T2, is to make them deck out in order for your offense to really kick in? Think of an alternate, or pump up the offense. A 105 card deck will win before deck out, majority of the time.
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How about hand control?
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So your strategy, in T2, is to make them deck out in order for your offense to really kick in? Think of an alternate, or pump up the offense. A 105 card deck will win before deck out, majority of the time.
Maybe not. A conversion offense like this can be more than strong enough to push through a defense (provided the defense is not solely comprised of demons).
How about hand control?
Or inverse hand control. Employ the Speed Bump Lost Soul and then keep forcing them to draw cards. Surprisingly this can also work (although probably not enough to count on).
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I made this for fun. I tried it a tournament and it didnt do that great. Defence kinda sucked but offence wasnt too bad. The defence works well if it gets set up, which sadly doesnt happen quickly.
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Fall Like Lightning could be another anti-demon GE. ITB, discard a demon, CBP.
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Faith as a Mustard Seed is another.
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Faith as a Mustard Seed is another.
x2 of those are already there.
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Three Nails active counters your defense.
Add Golgotha so you can block? I think if you activate Three Nails then they attack you with Isaiah with Isaiah's Call on him to negate your sites is bad for you. Does Call negate sites?
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As i said before, i tried it at a tourny, and the defense didnt do too great. Worked ok vs red caananites, but failed miserably vs isaiah and genisis offences. Another this is that it takes forever to set up.
I am no longer using it. I did it for fun, and it really is when everything is set up.