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Title: Kill Them With Kindness (Gold, Syrian/Abom)
Post by: Red Warrior on August 26, 2014, 04:04:30 PM
NEUTRAL (24) 1. Rejoice 2. Rejoice 3. Shame 4. Shame 5. Revealer 6. Revealer 7. CBP 8. CBP 9. Female Only 10. Female Only 11. Site Recur 12. Site Recur 13. Site Doubler 14. Site Doubler
15. Darius’ Decree 16. Darius’ Decree 17. Gifts of the Magi 18. Gifts of the Magi 19. Samaritan Water Jar 20. Samaritan Water Jar 21. Samaritan Water Jar 22. Three Nails
23. Damascus 24. Damascus
GOOD (38) 1. Son of God 2. New Jerusalem 3. Angel of the Lord 4. Grapes of Wrath
5. House at Bethany 6. Wall of Protection
7. Martha 8. Generous Widow 9. Generous Widow 10. Good Samaritan 11. Good Samaritan 12. Good Samaritan 13. Simeon 14. Woman at the Well 15. The Thankful Leper 16. Zaccheus 17. Gideon 18. Moses 19. Samuel 20. Angel Under The Oak 21. Angel Under The Oak 22. Captain of the Host 23. David
24. Kindness (TEC) 25. Kindness (TEC) 26. Meeting the Messiah 27. Meeting the Messiah 28. Repentance and Restitution 29. Repentance and Restitution 30. Faith as a Mustard Seed 31. Faith as a Mustard Seed 32. Ambush the City 33. Ambush the City 34. Battle Prayer 35. Battle Prayer 36. Samuel’s Edict 37. Samuel’s Edict 38. Loaves and Fishes
EVIL (38) 1. Christian Martyr 2. Burial 3. Destruction of Nehushtan 4. Falling Away 5. Mayhem
6. High Places 7. High Places 8. House of Rimmon
9. Covenant with Death
10. Greek Philosophers 11. Goat with Horn 12. Goat with Horn 13. Philetus 14. Winged Leopard 15. Antiochus IV Epiphanes 16. Antiochus IV Epiphanes 17. Naaman 18. Shobach 19. The Strong Force 20. Syrian Archer 21. Syrian Archer 22. Syrian Archer
I wanted to get something posted to get some advice rolling on this thing. That being said there are several "fluffy" cards in here that are more or less place holders while I consider and test this deck.
Kindness Immunity is weak, but making your opponent draw 1 each turn? Priceless. Not to mention that I get to draw 1 off of a Kindness, or draw 2 if Gifts is active, or draw 4 if I have Gifts and 2x Kindness. Although I plan on placing these on Good Samaritans and putting them in House of Bethany, I may test using the immunity and see how it does.
Empowering Antiochus Syrian Archer, Gold Shield, Antiochus is a pretty strong block, and with a Horses attached I can throw an Abom out. If Abom is already out, I can use Horses for Idle Gossip, bringing Generous Widow or Martha into a side battle to immediately enjoy a draw-to-discard.
Capture... Risky Business I Know Since I'm running High Places (for obvious reasons), I've included old-school Snares. I can either capture a threatening hero in territory (especially if I'm holding a second copy of High Places), or capture off of The Strong Force. Syrian Archer with Gold Shield can convert them to take away their negates, or possibly protection (Obadiah's Caves only protects GREEN prophets, etc.).
Keeping Abom on the Field In my few games with an Abom deck in the last few years, I've been frustrated with how easy it is to remove evil enhancements from the field. I'm running 2x Darius Decree and 1x Covenant with Death to try to keep Foreign Swords and Live Coals at bay.
This is NOWHERE NEAR a complete deck, and I'm excited to get feedback and ideas from all of you. Thanks!
Title: Re: Kill Them With Kindness (Gold, Syrian/Abom)
Post by: Red Dragon Thorn on August 26, 2014, 04:29:55 PM
Joey,
This deck looks great. I built something similar last week, but my list isn't nearly as polished as yours. I'd consider a copy or two of Balaam's Disobedience. It's still one of the best options that Gray has, and I can easily see you getting steamrolled if you don't get an early A-bom set. I have never been a big fan of Gold Shields. They just never seem to pan out for me. I haven't tried the Syrian archer trick though, so perhaps you'll have more luck. The Philetus feels very out of place. Also, with so many necessary black characters for Abom, a copy or two of Seek and Destroy might not be out of place
Title: Re: Kill Them With Kindness (Gold, Syrian/Abom)
Post by: Professoralstad on August 26, 2014, 05:39:30 PM
I'd really like to see some Sorrow of Mary's in it, as well as an RBD or 2 (to use off of Damascus, and to combo with TGWs in cases where discarding 4 from hand and deck may help more than one from territory). I would only use one High Places and fewer Greeks, as while Abom is the main strategy, the defense should be strong enough to hold off until you are ready to go. I don't really like Hypocrite's Proselyte without Naz, since if a Hero is important enough for underdecking him to help you significantly, then it will come back soon enough.
The offense looks solid, I'm sure there can be improvements, but not sure if they can be fully identified until the deck is tested.
Title: Re: Kill Them With Kindness (Gold, Syrian/Abom)
Post by: Nameless on August 26, 2014, 07:00:39 PM
With the black and the gray I am surprised that you did not use Hellenistic Jews.
Title: Re: Kill Them With Kindness (Gold, Syrian/Abom)
Post by: TheJaylor on August 26, 2014, 07:13:20 PM
I think that The Holy Spirit would be a good add to get Kindness out faster and to get it back if it's discarded. Guardian should also be in there but if you have a good reason not to have it in that's fine.
Title: Re: Kill Them With Kindness (Gold, Syrian/Abom)
Post by: Minion of Jesus on August 26, 2014, 09:37:58 PM
I just love the title. Taming of the Shrew reference.
Title: Re: Kill Them With Kindness (Gold, Syrian/Abom)
Post by: Red Warrior on August 26, 2014, 11:56:26 PM
John, I agree on the Balaam's. I started with 2, but ended up cutting them to put Snares. If I lean away from the High Places / Snare idea they'll probably be back. I love Seek and Destroy, and I'm using it in a straight black defense I may post later with Hellestic Jews, but this deck only has Philetus and Greek Philosophers for NT ECs.
Jordan, Sorrow of Mary is on my radar for sure. At one point I had Aaron and Eli the Priest to trigger a U&T, but when I focused the offense I lost my hand-knowledge element. Sorrow would help quite a bit! The only way I can force RBD on them is to give them control of Generous Widow during an Idol Gossip side battle. It would be a good counter to their own drawing though I agree.
Nameless, Hellenistic Jews rocks, and I'm using it in similar deck, but being neither Greek nor Syrian in a pretty tight balance I chose to forgo them. If my enhancements or balance make me less theme restricted as we work through this I'll definitely keep them in mind.
Jayden, Holy Spirit could be a fun add. I almost left Falling Away out for the same reason I ended up leaving GoYS out: This deck will probably be out-raced to the doms. Generous Widow could easily discard one or both if they become useless.
Minion, Share not the source nor context of said quote with my wife, lest I be made to sleep on the couch tonight, haha.
Title: Re: Kill Them With Kindness (Gold, Syrian/Abom)
Post by: The Guardian on August 27, 2014, 03:27:37 PM
*SPOILER ALERT*
Title: Re: Kill Them With Kindness (Gold, Syrian/Abom)
Post by: Red Warrior on August 27, 2014, 05:02:41 PM
Note to self: post a Persian deck to see if Justin says the same thing ::) #NotHoldingBreath