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Re: Need T2 multi ideas for NATS.
« Reply #25 on: March 31, 2011, 03:52:40 PM »
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I don't like having a target on my head just cuz I sit down to play a friendly game of type 2 multiplayer.

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Re: Need T2 multi ideas for NATS.
« Reply #26 on: March 31, 2011, 04:05:15 PM »
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I don't like having a target on my head just cuz I sit down to play a friendly game of type 2 multiplayer.
I feel the same way with type 1 multi.
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Re: Need T2 multi ideas for NATS.
« Reply #27 on: March 31, 2011, 09:50:07 PM »
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I don't like having a target on my head just cuz I sit down to play a friendly game of type 2 multiplayer.

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Re: Need T2 multi ideas for NATS.
« Reply #28 on: March 31, 2011, 11:30:06 PM »
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But some times you just want MJB to lose by 7, so you have to block him.
Ha.  I'll lose by seven whether you block me or not!  :P

I don't like having a target on my head just cuz I sit down to play a friendly game of type 2 multiplayer.

"It doesn't matter if everyone else has 3 Lost Souls rescued and Justin has 0. Justin is still winning."
That's right--you should just let the best player at the table have Lost Souls for no reason.  ::)

As a person who has played T2 multi games where I have been hit with double-digit dominants, I don't understand this plaint at all.  If I have an early Falling Away in my hand, I would have absolutely no qualms about playing it against either of you even if you were behind. People do the same to me.
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Re: Need T2 multi ideas for NATS.
« Reply #29 on: April 01, 2011, 03:01:12 AM »
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As a person who has played T2 multi games where I have been hit with double-digit dominants, I don't understand this plaint at all.  If I have an early Falling Away in my hand, I would have absolutely no qualms about playing it against either of you even if you were behind. People do the same to me.
There is no problem with that. What Justin and I are saying is that Falling Away would be played on us if we were behind and someone else was in front. And yes the double digit dominants are no fun, but when you are behind and get them is what is most frustrating.

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Re: Need T2 multi ideas for NATS.
« Reply #30 on: April 01, 2011, 12:58:48 PM »
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yes, it is also frusterating  when someone announces before the game, "this guy is really good play all your dominants on him".  :P

I got hit with Gabriel like 4 times when the guy wasn't even attacking me. CM when I had zero and one person had 3-4 withought playing sog nj. I think I took one FA, Burial, 2x CM.. I cant remmeber. needless to say i lost.

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Re: Need T2 multi ideas for NATS.
« Reply #31 on: April 01, 2011, 01:28:00 PM »
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I guess that's what we get for winning.  :-\
Bryon came over one game at nationals and had to give a warning to the other two players at one of my games. They would only block each other if they could hurt me somehow, and all dominants went on me, and I was the only one really being blocked. I'm playing type 2 multi at nationals this year and I haven't played sine California because of that game, so I'm hoping it goes better. My favorite type 2 multi games are the top table ones, where you know everyone is a potential threat, and everyone knows what they are doing.

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Re: Need T2 multi ideas for NATS.
« Reply #32 on: April 01, 2011, 02:55:26 PM »
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I am thinking BD, with the new cards and all, will take away a lot of the new players from type two multi (the nature of it exculdes many new players right of the bat anyways). I bet it is going to be small yet quite skilled type 2 multi. Should be a blast.

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Re: Need T2 multi ideas for NATS.
« Reply #33 on: April 01, 2011, 03:11:55 PM »
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I guess that's what we get for winning.  :-\
Bryon came over one game at nationals and had to give a warning to the other two players at one of my games. They would only block each other if they could hurt me somehow, and all dominants went on me, and I was the only one really being blocked. I'm playing type 2 multi at nationals this year and I haven't played sine California because of that game, so I'm hoping it goes better. My favorite type 2 multi games are the top table ones, where you know everyone is a potential threat, and everyone knows what they are doing.

Well, I know Bryon didn't say anything to me or TJ, so I know it wasn't our game (2009 Nats T2 multi).  That being said, you were on the short end of the stick in that game.  Although we didn't intentionally gang up on you, I knew most of TJ's deck and how to abuse it to win.  That happens a lot in later rounds of any tournament multi game.  At the top table that year in a later round, RDT blocked an RA by Ron Sias fully knowing an AoCP was coming.  Josh and I were just getting our offense going and RDT used the knowledge of our decks he gained in a previous round to weaken our position.  That's just strategy.

But I have been the target of a gang, so I know what you guys mean.
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Re: Need T2 multi ideas for NATS.
« Reply #34 on: April 01, 2011, 08:32:24 PM »
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Bryon came over one game at nationals and had to give a warning to the other two players at one of my games. They would only block each other if they could hurt me somehow, and all dominants went on me, and I was the only one really being blocked.
Just to be clear--this is way outside what I was talking about.

That said if I am at a table with two average players and someone of the caliber of you or Justin you are going to get targeted until there is a reason to go after one of the other two. Now, am I going to play SoG defensively to stop you from getting your first LS? No, but I would have absolutely no compunction against using a Falling Away against you even if one of the other players was nominally ahead (say 3-2 or 3-1). At that point you are still going to be the biggest threat to me winning the game. That is one of the burdens that superior players need to bear.

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I'm playing type 2 multi at nationals this year and I haven't played sine California because of that game, so I'm hoping it goes better.  My favorite type 2 multi games are the top table ones, where you know everyone is a potential threat, and everyone knows what they are doing.
I have played T2-multi pick up games at Wild Bill's game nights where having only a second place at Nationals meant you were the weak sister. T2-multi at Nats this year is going to rock.  Unless...

yes, it is also frusterating  when someone announces before the game, "this guy is really good play all your dominants on him".  :P
That is an unfair characterization.  I merely mentioned to the two RLK at our table that you were a reigning National Champion and almost impossible to beat (both of which were true). They came up with the idea of playing all of their dominants on you all on their own. Plus this was T1-MP and doesn't have anything to do with T2 multi.  :P

I did apologize to you after. It never dawned on me that one of them would use Falling Away to take away the single Lost Soul you had rescued when I had 4 in my land of redemption. As funny as it was to see happen, I did feel bad for you. On the bright side, you got a good story out of it.

But I have been the target of a gang, so I know what you guys mean.
With the exception of the one game discussed above with the RLKs and the Hobbit, I have never been in a game like Mr. Hiatus describes at the top. I hope my explanation clarifies where I was coming from before.
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Re: Need T2 multi ideas for NATS.
« Reply #35 on: April 01, 2011, 08:48:35 PM »
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That's okay, I know you were joking at the beginning... I don't blame you. I found it hilarious  a bit later when I realised I was pretty far down anyways. I just love referencing it.

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Re: Need T2 multi ideas for NATS.
« Reply #36 on: April 01, 2011, 10:46:08 PM »
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I am thinking BD, with the new cards and all, will take away a lot of the new players from type two multi (the nature of it exculdes many new players right of the bat anyways). I bet it is going to be small yet quite skilled type 2 multi. Should be a blast.
Yes I am very much looking forward to type 2 multiplayer this year at nationals.

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That said if I am at a table with two average players and someone of the caliber of you or Justin you are going to get targeted until there is a reason to go after one of the other two. Now, am I going to play SoG defensively to stop you from getting your first LS? No, but I would have absolutely no compunction against using a Falling Away against you even if one of the other players was nominally ahead (say 3-2 or 3-1). At that point you are still going to be the biggest threat to me winning the game. That is one of the burdens that superior players need to bear.
+1 I completely agree. I do that to other top players. I know for a fact that there are certain players that can easily come back from 3-3-3-1, them being 1 and I am all for targeting them over less experienced players, even if those players have 3. So I think we are all on the same page here. You rank consistently at top tournaments you better either not play multiplayer, or come prepared.  :laugh:

 


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