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Title: Watching, Waiting, and Destroying your Deck
Post by: Professoralstad on October 04, 2010, 01:06:36 PM
Based on a few requests, and the fact that I need to change a few things anyway, I decided to post my Watchful Servant deck here. The premise is simple: Shrink my opponent's deck fast enough to let Watchful Servant walk in at the end for some freebies (ideally, 3-4). It took second at a local on Saturday (1 LS differential away from first), and has also performed very well in ROOT this past month, beating all but one opponent. It's only loss in the tourney was to Nathan "The Hobbit" Voigt, who drew his deck just well enough to get past me.

The biggest problem was exposed when Martin "T3h UNF0RG1VABL3" Miller whomped on it twice in a row after the tournament with a speedy FBTN banding deck (I would have thought it would fare better vs. that offense, since Herods are the premier CBP defense). But when it works, and with a little bit of luck, the destructive power is hard to get by. A few of my tournament games, I discarded ~15 cards off of my opponent's deck.

Cards in deck: 70
Lost Souls: 9
   Lost Soul (anti-ignore)
   Lost Soul (deck discard)
   Lost Soul (FBTN)
   Lost Soul (Female Only)
   Lost Soul (revealer)
   Lost Soul (shuffler)
   Lost Soul (site guard)
   Lost Soul (Thorns)
   Lost Soul (Wanderer)

Lamb Dominants: 4
   Angel of the Lord
   Grapes of Wrath
   New Jerusalem
   Son of God

Grim Reaper Dominants: 4
   Burial
   Christian Martyr
   Destruction of Nehushtan
   Falling Away

Fortresses: 6
   Herod's Temple
   High Places
   Pharaoh's Throne Room
   Pithom
   Storehouse
   Wall of Protection

Multi-Color Sites: 1
   The Ends of the Earth

White Sites: 1
   Herod's Dungeon

Gold Sites: 1
   Chorazin

Artifacts: 5
   Chariot of Fire
   Lampstand of the Sanctuary
   Magic Charms
   The Bronze Laver
   Unholy Writ

White Covenant Cards: 2
   Given Over to Egypt (Gold)
   Unknown Nation (Yellow)

Gold Covenant Cards: 1
   I am Redemption

Multi-Color Heroes: 1
   Ahimaaz (Teal)

Gold Heroes: 1
   Watchful Servant

Purple Heroes: 1
   Ethiopian Treasurer

Multi-Color Hero Enhancements: 3
   Benedictus (Teal/White)
   Philosophy
   Resurrection

Purple Hero Enhancements: 1
   Authority of Christ

Gold Evil Characters: 14
   Archelaus
   Egyptian Archer
   Egyptian Charioteers
   Egyptian Horsemen
   Egyptian Warden
   Herod Agrippa II
   Herod Philip II
   Herod the Great
   Huge Egyptian
   Jannes
   King of Tyrus
   Potiphar's Wife
   Queen Tahpenes
   Salome

Multi-Color Evil Enhancements: 1
   Herod's Treachery

Gold Evil Enhancements: 14
   Beheaded
   Egyptian Horses
   Egyptian Spear
   Escape to Egypt
   Failed Objective
   Imprisoned
   Mask of Fear
   Moses kills Egyptian
   Outnumbered
   Pagan Sacrifices
   Rash Oath
   Ruthless
   Spreading Mildew
   Wonders Forgotten
Title: Re: Watching, Waiting, and Destroying your Deck
Post by: Warrior_Monk on October 04, 2010, 01:16:22 PM
Hey Prof, RR hacked your account.

An Ethan would help. Golgotha isn't very nice.

Why Resurrection? Isn't CoF enough?

I like this deck a lot.
Title: Re: Watching, Waiting, and Destroying your Deck
Post by: Minister Polarius on October 04, 2010, 01:18:18 PM
So if your opponent has DD and Golgotha you just lose?
Title: Re: Watching, Waiting, and Destroying your Deck
Post by: Professoralstad on October 04, 2010, 01:53:01 PM
So if your opponent has DD and Golgotha you just lose?

And CP...probably. But they also have to have Lampstand/some other Artifact or Nazareth, else Captured Ark/DoN will prevail. If my opponent can figure out my backup plan, I suppose they could set up that combo, but I guess I don't foresee it happening too often in T1.
Title: Re: Watching, Waiting, and Destroying your Deck
Post by: Master KChief on October 04, 2010, 03:15:45 PM
where is samaritan water jar? also, is knowing the size of your opponents deck common knowledge? what do you do, pick it up and count it out?
Title: Re: Watching, Waiting, and Destroying your Deck
Post by: Professoralstad on October 04, 2010, 04:46:29 PM
where is samaritan water jar? also, is knowing the size of your opponents deck common knowledge? what do you do, pick it up and count it out?

Hmm...I guess I never thought of that since I would need to add a Samaritan to make it effective...and I'm not sure how much it would help, since most decks with sizable defenses have at least a few characters with */3 or fewer. But I suppose I could try it.

As far as knowing the size of my opponent's deck, I never really usually attack until they have decked out (or maybe 1-3 cards left depending on my opponent's defense). But the size of a deck almost never matters for cards if X>12, so if it appears to be close, I would assume you could count/ask your opponent to count. I guess I'm not entirely sure though.
Title: Re: Watching, Waiting, and Destroying your Deck
Post by: Master KChief on October 04, 2010, 04:50:52 PM
figured swj would be a good splash for the deck while still potentially helping speeding up your rescues. at the very worse, its a top3, which still means you get to rescue a turn earlier with watchful. good samaritan/well woman (or thankful leper, it has great synergy with your deck)/kindness could also be a great splash while also providing another out just in case your servant falls through.
Title: Re: Watching, Waiting, and Destroying your Deck
Post by: Josh on October 06, 2010, 12:17:25 PM
I can't figure out how you stop Golgotha multiple times with this deck.  I see one use for Benedictus and that's it.  What am I missing?
Title: Re: Watching, Waiting, and Destroying your Deck
Post by: Lamborghini_diablo on October 06, 2010, 01:34:35 PM
Best counter to these types of decks...

Run a 105 carder.  ;D
Title: Re: Watching, Waiting, and Destroying your Deck
Post by: Professoralstad on October 06, 2010, 05:30:55 PM
I can't figure out how you stop Golgotha multiple times with this deck.  I see one use for Benedictus and that's it.  What am I missing?

Benedictus + ET + AoCP clears their territory, with Spreading Mildew used on the off chance they are using Pharisses/Sadducees. Any stragglers in their hand can be dealt with using AotL/Grapes. I'm thinking of other ways that Golgotha can be skirted as well, but no one I played at the tourney on Saturday ended up using it.
Title: Re: Watching, Waiting, and Destroying your Deck
Post by: Daniel TS RED on October 06, 2010, 06:49:04 PM
I like this deck a lot.  I always wondered why you use Philosophy though.

Daniel

 ;D
Title: Re: Watching, Waiting, and Destroying your Deck
Post by: Warrior_Monk on October 06, 2010, 07:00:12 PM
KoT and ET.
Title: Re: Watching, Waiting, and Destroying your Deck
Post by: Master KChief on October 06, 2010, 07:03:24 PM
and ht food.
Title: Re: Watching, Waiting, and Destroying your Deck
Post by: Professoralstad on October 07, 2010, 01:14:58 PM
and ht food.

Precisely. Philosophy will save any NT character in the game with Herod's Temple, and it is recurrable via ET.
Title: Re: Watching, Waiting, and Destroying your Deck
Post by: Daniel TS RED on October 07, 2010, 04:35:30 PM
Alrighty, that makes sense.  So it's multi purpose.  I didn't see the big advantages of just a couple of numbers, but with HT it makes a lot of sense.

Daniel

 :thumbup:
Title: Re: Watching, Waiting, and Destroying your Deck
Post by: The Guardian on October 28, 2010, 04:32:09 AM
Needs a little Mustard...not a lot, just a little Seed... ::)
Title: Re: Watching, Waiting, and Destroying your Deck
Post by: Professoralstad on October 28, 2010, 09:29:58 AM
Faith as a Mustard Seed was in there...but it was proven to be pretty useless, as it only negates and discards one Site (and is thus useless vs. CP+Golgotha) and few people will occupy their Golgotha unless they are using a Site deck, primarily because of FaaMS.
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