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Red Warriors
« on: March 22, 2012, 05:10:02 PM »
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Cards in deck:56

Lost Souls:7
CBP
Anti- angel
Anti- Withdraw
Thorns
Speed bump
N.T.
Female

Good doms:3
Sog
NJ
AotL

Evil Doms: 4
DoN
FA
Burial
CM

Artifacts: 4
Ram's Horn
Hezekiah's Signet ring
Unholy writ
CoF

Curses: 2
CoM
RBD

Forts:1
Outpost

Red Heroes: 11
Spy
Ahimelek
Centurion at Cap.
Amasai the raider
David
Uriah the Hittite
Centurion at Cal.
Asahel
Ishmaiah
Zalmon/Recruiting officer
Abishai

Red enhancements:9
Dave's mighty men
Mustering for war
BoD
Dave's Triumph
ASP
Battle cry
Warrior's spear
Battle is the Lords
Cent. proclamation

Duel enhancements:1
Foreign sword

Black Evil characters: 7
Philistine Garrison
Goliath
Philistine priests
Fallen warrior
Philistine Armor bearer
12FG
Shehem

Black enhancements: 7
Land dispute
Devourer
Philistine chariot
bringing fear
Fortify Site
Overwhelmed by philistines
Stone of Thebez
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Re: Red Warriors
« Reply #1 on: March 22, 2012, 09:46:41 PM »
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Cards in deck:56

Lost Souls:8
CBP
Anti- angel Exchanger The Anti-angels won't be much help, except against decks you should already be beating, the exchanger is a far better option so that you can snag an N.T. only or */4
Anti- Withdraw
Thorns
Speed bump */4Your opponent Can't SoG the */4
N.T.
Female
Hopper Soul Gen is so important these days, and he's a + 1

Good doms:3
Sog
NJ
AotL

Evil Doms: 4
DoN
FA
Burial Mayhem Without the two-liner burial doesn't really make sense, and Mayhem is better anyway.
CM

Artifacts: 5
Ram's Horn 4DC It's ok but not vital, 4DC's drawing will do you far more good
Hezekiah's Signet ring
Unholy writ
CoF
Wool Fleece Helps BoD Ahimilek and some of your other battle winners work better

Curses: 2
CoM
RBD

Forts:1
Outpost

Red Heroes: 9
Spy
Ahimelek Peter Ahimilek alone isn't worth, And Peter lets you use 4DC
Centurion at Cap.
Amasai the raider Abishai This way you can go Abishai + Asahel + Ishmaiah to get a full d3, and negate more.
David
Uriah the Hittite
Centurion at Cal.
Asahel
Ishmaiah

Multi enhancements:1
Trumpet and sword
Useless without Ahimilek, and too spotty with him.

Red enhancements: 8
Dave's mighty men Not too necessary plus you need room for 4DC so you can draw.
sing and praise
BoD
Dave's Triumph
ASP
Battle cry
Jael's nail Mustering for war, Jael's Nail can be negated easily, and you could use some more drawing.
Battle is the Lords
Cent. proclamation

Duel enhancements:1
Foreign sword

Black Evil characters: 8
Philistine Garrison
Goliath
Philistine priests
Fallen warrior
Shechem Woman of Thebez So that stone is CBN
Philistine Armor bearer
12FG
Lot's Wife Nice for banding, and also makes stone CBN

Black enhancements: 7
Land dispute
Devourer
Philistine chariot
bringing fear
WoS
Overwhelmed by philistines
Stone of Thebez

Here are my changes.  Mustering for War and 4DC along with more banding for Ishmiah help you with speed.  If I were you I would consider adding in some FBTNB into this deck it would go a long way to make it more effective.  But if you are set on mono-red these are my suggestions. 

If however, you are fine with adding in some FBTNB I'll update my suggestions. 
« Last Edit: March 23, 2012, 10:31:18 AM by Wings of Music »
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Re: Red Warriors
« Reply #2 on: March 23, 2012, 10:26:37 AM »
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Lot's Wife Nice for banding, gets woman another card and also makes stone CBN
I agree with Wings suggestions, but you need Tower of Thebez in play for Woman of Thebez to draw.
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Re: Red Warriors
« Reply #3 on: March 23, 2012, 10:28:50 AM »
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oh you're right  :doh:  Oh well, it won't help your drawing but what I said about the banding and making stone CBN still applies. :P
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Re: Red Warriors
« Reply #4 on: March 23, 2012, 11:25:19 PM »
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Cards in deck:56

Lost Souls:8
CBP
Anti- angel Exchanger The Anti-angels won't be much help, except against decks you should already be beating, the exchanger is a far better option so that you can snag an N.T. only or */4Don't have
Anti- Withdraw
Thorns
Speed bump */4Your opponent Can't SoG the */4Don't have
N.T.
Female
Hopper Soul Gen is so important these days, and he's a + 1Don't have

Good doms:3
Sog
NJ
AotL

Evil Doms: 4
DoN
FA
Burial Mayhem Without the two-liner burial doesn't really make sense, and Mayhem is better anyway.Don't have
CM

Artifacts: 5
Ram's Horn 4DC It's ok but not vital, 4DC's drawing will do you far more goodDon't havr
Hezekiah's Signet ring
Unholy writ
CoF
Wool Fleece Helps BoD Ahimilek and some of your other battle winners work better

Curses: 2
CoM
RBD

Forts:1
Outpost

Red Heroes: 9
Spy
Ahimelek Peter Ahimilek alone isn't worth, And Peter lets you use 4DC How would that help? i can't use 4DC anyway
Centurion at Cap.
Amasai the raider Abishai This way you can go Abishai + Asahel + Ishmaiah to get a full d3, and negate more.
David
Uriah the Hittite
Centurion at Cal.
Asahel
Ishmaiah

Multi enhancements:1
Trumpet and sword
Useless without Ahimilek, and too spotty with him. Do you mean foreign sword?

Red enhancements: 8
Dave's mighty men Not too necessary plus you need room for 4DC so you can draw.CBN works on most defenses
sing and praise
BoD
Dave's Triumph
ASP
Battle cry
Jael's nail Mustering for war, Jael's Nail can be negated easily, and you could use some more drawing.CBN on Uriah, note no other set asides for a reason
Battle is the Lords
Cent. proclamation

Duel enhancements:1
Foreign sword

Black Evil characters: 8
Philistine Garrison
Goliath
Philistine priests
Fallen warrior
Shechem Woman of Thebez So that stone is CBNDon't have
Philistine Armor bearer
12FG
Lot's Wife Nice for banding, and also makes stone CBN

Black enhancements: 7
Land dispute
Devourer
Philistine chariot
bringing fear
WoS
Overwhelmed by philistines
Stone of Thebez

Here are my changes.  Mustering for War and 4DC along with more banding for Ishmiah help you with speed.  If I were you I would consider adding in some FBTNB into this deck it would go a long way to make it more effective.  But if you are set on mono-red these are my suggestions. 

If however, you are fine with adding in some FBTNB I'll update my suggestions.

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Re: Red Warriors
« Reply #5 on: March 24, 2012, 02:32:35 AM »
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Cards in deck:56

Lost Souls:8
CBP
Anti- angel Exchanger The Anti-angels won't be much help, except against decks you should already be beating, the exchanger is a far better option so that you can snag an N.T. only or */4Don't have In that case put in a 2/3 liner if you have one.
Anti- Withdraw
Thorns
Speed bump */4Your opponent Can't SoG the */4Don't have Don't sweat it then.
N.T.
Female
Hopper Soul Gen is so important these days, and he's a + 1Don't have Don't worry about it then.

Good doms:3
Sog
NJ
AotL

Evil Doms: 4
DoN
FA
Burial Mayhem Without the two-liner burial doesn't really make sense, and Mayhem is better anyway.Don't have Burial is fine in that case
CM

Artifacts: 5
Ram's Horn 4DC It's ok but not vital, 4DC's drawing will do you far more goodDon't have Then get it you need this fore more drawing.
Hezekiah's Signet ring
Unholy writ
CoF
Wool Fleece Helps BoD and some of your other battle winners work better

Curses: 2
CoM
RBD

Forts:1
Outpost

Red Heroes: 9
Spy
Ahimelek Peter Ahimilek alone isn't worth, And Peter lets you use 4DC How would that help? i can't use 4DC anyway Again make an effort to get 4DC, it's not too hard to acquire.
Centurion at Cap.
Amasai the raider Abishai This way you can go Abishai + Asahel + Ishmaiah to get a full d3, and negate more.
David
Uriah the Hittite
Centurion at Cal.
Asahel
Ishmaiah

Multi enhancements:1
Trumpet and sword
Useless without Ahimilek, and too spotty with him. Do you mean foreign sword? No In mean the one I said, Trumpet and sword, foreign sword is awesome for you deck but T&S isn't.

Red enhancements: 8
Dave's mighty men Not too necessary plus you need room for 4DC so you can draw.CBN works on most defenses Eh, you can leave it, since you don't have the hopper that opens up an extra card slot.
sing and praise
BoD
Dave's Triumph
ASP
Battle cry
Jael's nail Mustering for war, Jael's Nail can be negated easily, and you could use some more drawing.CBN on Uriah, note no other set asides for a reason What's the reason?  Mustering for war is arguably the best set aside enhancement.  I don't see a reason to not use it, particularly in a deck that really needs a boost of speed.
Battle is the Lords
Cent. proclamation

Duel enhancements:1
Foreign sword

Black Evil characters: 8
Philistine Garrison
Goliath
Philistine priests
Fallen warrior
Shechem Woman of Thebez So that stone is CBNDon't haveThat's fine, since you don't have hopper you should put Malchus or Gib delegates in here for soul gen.
Philistine Armor bearer
12FG
Lot's Wife Nice for banding, and also makes stone CBN

Black enhancements: 7
Land dispute
Devourer
Philistine chariot
bringing fear
WoS
Overwhelmed by philistines
Stone of Thebez

Here are my changes.  Mustering for War and 4DC along with more banding for Ishmiah help you with speed.  If I were you I would consider adding in some FBTNB into this deck it would go a long way to make it more effective.  But if you are set on mono-red these are my suggestions. 

If however, you are fine with adding in some FBTNB I'll update my suggestions.
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Re: Red Warriors
« Reply #6 on: March 28, 2012, 07:54:50 PM »
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I play this brigade and these are my red heroes
centurion
army of simeonites
Men of Judah
Ahimelek the Hittite
Calendar
ishmaiah the gibeonite
Uriah the Hittite
work
asahel
men of Judah
good enhancements are these
the sabbath
Foreign sword
David's. Triumph
Centurions proclamation
Counsel of abigail
trumpet and sword
battle cry
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Re: Red Warriors
« Reply #7 on: March 28, 2012, 08:09:25 PM »
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Boom!

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Regardless, both Necroposting, and multiposting (With the exception of the Market Forum) are frowned upon.
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Re: Red Warriors
« Reply #8 on: March 28, 2012, 09:09:38 PM »
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is that warriors rams horn
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Re: Red Warriors
« Reply #9 on: March 28, 2012, 09:59:24 PM »
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no, preists

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Re: Red Warriors
« Reply #10 on: April 04, 2012, 12:08:49 PM »
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Re: Red Warriors
« Reply #11 on: April 04, 2012, 01:39:09 PM »
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Needs mustering for war, wool fleece and probably ambush.

I would take out sing and praise, Ram's horn, and David's mighty men for them. 
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Re: Red Warriors
« Reply #12 on: April 04, 2012, 05:19:19 PM »
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For defense I would add Foolish Advice

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Re: Red Warriors
« Reply #13 on: April 10, 2012, 05:20:31 PM »
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Actually Jael's Nail should be kept in your deck because doesnt uriah the hittite make it CBN

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Re: Red Warriors
« Reply #14 on: April 10, 2012, 05:22:00 PM »
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But you cannot always go out with Uriah and Dave kills him.

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Re: Red Warriors
« Reply #15 on: April 10, 2012, 05:37:09 PM »
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why can't you always go out with uriah and it would be better to switch uriah in for david because bravery of david is CBN when played on him as well

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Re: Red Warriors
« Reply #16 on: April 10, 2012, 05:39:09 PM »
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But you cannot always go out with Uriah and Dave kills him.
Actually, Uriah doesn't discard himself until after battle.
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Re: Red Warriors
« Reply #17 on: April 10, 2012, 05:45:04 PM »
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still, why don't people just replace david with uriah because he is a lot better than david - all david is good for is Bravery of david

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Re: Red Warriors
« Reply #18 on: April 10, 2012, 05:57:49 PM »
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He is in, and with Dave, his Bravery is CBN on all hero, not just Uriah.

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Re: Red Warriors
« Reply #19 on: April 10, 2012, 06:07:07 PM »
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 true but still uriah has CBN for all discard abilitys that can be used for Jaels nail, trumpet and sword, Bravery of David, and davids triumph

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Re: Red Warriors
« Reply #20 on: April 10, 2012, 06:25:34 PM »
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Jail's Nail and T&S are not Interrupts or Negates so you will not get to play them that often if playing against meta.

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Re: Red Warriors
« Reply #21 on: April 10, 2012, 09:02:08 PM »
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but uriah is fairly low at 6/2

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Re: Red Warriors
« Reply #22 on: April 10, 2012, 11:25:00 PM »
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The point in taking out Jael's Nail and T&S is that they are repetitive, he already has a bunch of battle winners.  Having two battlewinners that are only good on one specific character create too much hand-clog to be worthwhile.
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Re: Red Warriors
« Reply #23 on: April 12, 2012, 02:48:37 PM »
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The point in taking out Jael's Nail and T&S is that they are repetitive, he already has a bunch of battle winners.  Having two battlewinners that are only good on one specific character create too much hand-clog to be worthwhile.


I disagree - a CBN win is worth having in a deck and it isn't very repetitive :preach:

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Re: Red Warriors
« Reply #24 on: April 12, 2012, 02:58:47 PM »
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The point in taking out Jael's Nail and T&S is that they are repetitive, he already has a bunch of battle winners.  Having two battlewinners that are only good on one specific character create too much hand-clog to be worthwhile.


I disagree - a CBN win is worth having in a deck and it isn't very repetitive :preach:
They're only CBN on Uriah… :P
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Re: Red Warriors
« Reply #25 on: April 12, 2012, 03:54:21 PM »
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That doesn't matter he's a 6/2 and can get finish a lot of the tine

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Re: Red Warriors
« Reply #26 on: April 12, 2012, 04:36:02 PM »
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That doesn't matter he's a 6/2 and can get finish a lot of the tine
Initiative or lack thereof isn't really the problem.
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Re: Red Warriors
« Reply #27 on: April 13, 2012, 07:40:09 AM »
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That doesn't matter he's a 6/2 and can get finish a lot of the tine
Initiative or lack thereof isn't really the problem.

Nope, the problems are CM, UW, Charms, etc...
Just one more thing...

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Re: Red Warriors
« Reply #28 on: April 13, 2012, 11:32:18 AM »
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In addition to what Praeceps said, mono Red doesn't have the speed to justify two battle winners that are only CBN on one hero. Also, Uriah kills himself after battle with David in play.
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Re: Red Warriors
« Reply #29 on: April 13, 2012, 11:35:31 AM »
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The point in taking out Jael's Nail and T&S is that they are repetitive, he already has a bunch of battle winners.  Having two battlewinners that are only good on one specific character create too much hand-clog to be worthwhile.


I disagree - a CBN win is worth having in a deck and it isn't very repetitive :preach:

Red Wing and Praeceps are right.  Since they are only CBN on Uriah it's unlikely that you be able to play them on him becasue of writ/charms/cm, or far more likely, the chance that you don't have them at the same time and have to discard Nail or T&S becasue they make your hand too big.  On top of that the are both repetitive, they are just BoDs and AotLs except not as good.

I'm not disputing whether Uriah is good or not, what I am disputing is that you shouldn't need to rely on him to play those enhancements because there are good odds that he won't every get to play either of them. 

Also please consider what he would be taking out for them.  Things like more drawing (something he needs desperately), wool fleece to make his other battle winners work better etc.  Those would be far more valuable than a couple extra battle-winners, especially since he already has a lot of them. 
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Re: Red Warriors
« Reply #30 on: April 18, 2012, 09:29:52 PM »
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Re: Red Warriors
« Reply #31 on: April 19, 2012, 12:09:58 AM »
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It still could really use wool fleece to make Ahimilek/AotL/BoD/Dave's Triump etc. work better.  Other than that it looks pretty good. Switching out David's mighty men for Ambush, would be pretty awesome too. 
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Re: Red Warriors
« Reply #32 on: April 20, 2012, 05:54:47 PM »
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That's right, also i wasnt paying attention that the ability works for the opponent as well

 


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