Cactus Game Design Message Boards
Redemption® Collectible Trading Card Game HQ => Deck Building & Design => Type 1 Deck Advice => Topic started by: jbeers285 on January 16, 2014, 01:49:10 AM
-
70 cards
Gold Hero's 4
Moses
Jeptha
Jair
Gideon
Silver hero's (4)
Gabriel (wa)
AwaSN
AutO
Captain
Multi Color Hero's (3)
Samuel (Gold/Green)
Joseph (Blue/Green)
Ezekiel (Green/Teal)
Green Hero's (3)
Benaiah
David
Armor bearer
Blue Hero's (2)
Rachel
Jacob
Gold enhancements (2)
Samuels Edict
Deborah's Directive
Blue Enhancements (2)
Reuben's Torn Clothes
Abraham's Descendants
Silver Enhancements (3)
Angelic Guidance
Angelic News
Striking Herod
Multi-color good enhancements (3)
Wheel within a Wheel (green/silver)
Live Coal (green/silver)
Spiritual Warfare (green/sliver)
Dual alignment cards (2)
Forest Fire (green/crimson)
Drawn Sword (green/crimson)
Artifacts (4)
Iron Pan
Magic Charms
I Am Holy
Hidden Treasures
Dom's (9)
SoG
NJ
AotL
Grapes
Vain Philosophy
Christian Martyr
Falling Away
Mayhem
Don
Souls (10)
Resurrection
Fool
Female only
NT only
CBP
Wanderer
2-liner
Revealer
Hopper
Crimson Characters (6)
Nebuchadnezzar
Babylonian Soldiers
King Belshazzar
Nerg
King Merodach-Baladan
Judas Iscariot
Multi Color EC (4)
Foreign Wives
Winged lion
Astrologers
Chaldeans
Evil Enhancements (7)
Swift Horses
Dream
Carried into exile
Head of Gold
Desecrate the Temple
Belshazzar's Banquet
Nebuchadnezzar's Pride
Multi Color Evil enhancements (2)
Scattered
invoking terror
-
I feel like your offense is trying to be too many themes at once. You have some Judges stuff, some Genesis stuff, and some FBTN stuff. I'd recommend taking out the Genesis stuff as they function the best as their own theme (or in Herolite with Zeb).
I also only count 9 Lost Souls (not 10) and one of them is the Hopper. I'm assuming one was missed in your typing. :P
-
Regardless of the direction you want to go with the deck I would suggest the following cards for a Crimson defense:
Darius' Decree (http://redemption.wikia.com/wiki/Darius%E2%80%99_Decree_(TP))
Christian Suing Another (http://redemption.wikia.com/wiki/Christian_Suing_Another_(Ap)) (cbi when your dd is active_
Sarah's Jealousy (http://redemption.wikia.com/wiki/Sarah%E2%80%99s_Jealousy_(Pa)) (cbi assuming you pick a color they are not playing, works great with your spread offense and works super good with your Joseph or a Holy Grail)
Imitating Evil (http://redemption.wikia.com/wiki/Imitating_Evil_(G)) To get a cbi/cbn battle winner back
And Great Image (http://redemption.wikia.com/wiki/Great_Image_(Pr)), to good to pass up if your are playing 70 cards. It would be tough to find a slot for it in a 56 in which case I would ignore it. The other 3 should go with any crimson build imo.
If you keep the build at 70 I would cut offense to add some of this defense. If you went smaller I guess you are going to have to cut a little of both.
-
10 ECs is not nearly enough for a 70 card deck. This will lead to too many draws where you pull out some of your many LSs, and end up just giving them away because you don't have anyone to block with. You probably need at least 5 more ECs.
-
Whats the reasoning for 70 cards?
-
Whats the reasoning for 70 cards?
Honestly no real reason I just want something totally different to
Go with. Plus at 70 defensive heavy won't shut me down and it should have enough defense to stand up.
-
10 ECs is not nearly enough for a 70 card deck. This will lead to too many draws where you pull out some of your many LSs, and end up just giving them away because you don't have anyone to block with. You probably need at least 5 more ECs.
Hes not trying to run defense heavy or balanced so i dont think he needs the other ECs not every 70 card deck is defense heavy :P
-
10 ECs is not nearly enough for a 70 card deck. This will lead to too many draws where you pull out some of your many LSs, and end up just giving them away because you don't have anyone to block with. You probably need at least 5 more ECs.
Hes not trying to run defense heavy or balanced so i dont think he needs the other ECs not every 70 card deck is defense heavy :P
But 70 cards speed decks have never really been the rage, for a reason.
-
Hes not trying to run defense heavy or balanced so i dont think he needs the other ECs not every 70 card deck is defense heavy :P
My experience is that 70 card decks only work at top levels if they are defense-heavy.
If they are offense-heavy, then they'll still be slower than a 50 card speed deck, and they won't have enough defense to stop those speed decks.
If they are balanced, then they will be VERY susceptible to a poor draw on either offense OR defense that will end up costing them the game.
If they are defense-heavy (and fast), then they will always have enough power to stop the super-fast and super-strong offenses of opponents, and can therefore wait until they end up drawing whatever small offense they need to get to 5.
-
@Jbeers how about you test the deck on RTS an see how it goes? That's probably the best way to find out. Then you can cut it down if you need to.
-
@Jbeers how about you test the deck on RTS an see how it goes? That's probably the best way to find out. Then you can cut it down if you need to.
Good thought but
1. It's very hard to find t1 games on rts right now
2. If you do find one people aren't playing meta decks bc it's off season
3. 80% of games on rts in my experience has resulted in playing against defensive heavy decks.
-
I can get RTS up and running by tomorrow and can play you with a 52 card Disciples Pharisees meta deck sometime if you would like. Besides Justin seems lonely over there in the chat box haha. ;)
-
I can get RTS up and running by tomorrow and can play you with a 52 card Disciples Pharisees meta deck sometime if you would like. Besides Justin seems lonely over there in the chat box haha. ;)
That would be cool for me if you didn't mind and I played Justin 2 games of T2 tonight lol
-
3. 80% of games on rts in my experience has resulted in playing against defensive heavy decks.
Maybe this indicates that it's fun for people to play defensive heavy decks and have real battles. If only tournaments had longer time limits (like RTS games), so that people were free to play the game for the most fun :)
-
yeah and ban hand control which only kills fun
-
3. 80% of games on rts in my experience has resulted in playing against defensive heavy decks.
Maybe this indicates that it's fun for people to play defensive heavy decks and have real battles. If only tournaments had longer time limits (like RTS games), so that people were free to play the game for the most fun :)
It's not fun, don't worry. Defense is just brokenly good.