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My take on rotation music/martyrs
« on: October 14, 2021, 08:19:41 AM »
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Not using chronicles, david HAG, royal parade, or damsel cause i dont have them.  Advice welcome!

Doms:
SoG
TSC
3W
Angel
Mayhem
CM
Shipwreck

LS:
Covet
Exile
Remnant
Hunter
Prosperity
Darkenss
Accusers

Support:
Heavenly temple
BotC
GWT
Book of life
YWR
Endless treasures
Babble

Heroes:
Winds
Angel from the sun
24 elders
Music leaders
Hannah
Justin martyr
Polycarp
WWC
Esther

GE:
Overcome
Joy
Love Righteousness
5th seal
Virgin birth
Temple Dedication
Gams speech
Warning against Rebellion
Cov david
Life through Christ

EC:
Red dragon
Kot
Abaddon
Fallen star
Messenger
Deceiver

EE:
Blindness
Blasphemies
Lurking
Wages

Reserve:
Blood of the lamb
Word of their testimony
Priests of Christ
Oath of purity
New covenant jeremiah
Mark of the beast
Did God really say
FW
Judean Mediums
Coliseum
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Re: My take on rotation music/martyrs
« Reply #1 on: October 14, 2021, 08:45:46 AM »
+1
I had /have a white/music/Noah build for which I had CoW Samuel in reserve + Ark of Salvation and Cov w. Abraham to recur him after every usage with Hannah. Worked pretty well.
Additionally I had Joy in reserve for either Hannah or Esther to make them CBN + Hope in main deck (in addition to 5th Seal).
Also Virgin Birth and Out of Egypt would fit well. For orange I also often use "Did God really say" in addition to what you have listed.
For your Mayhem (and in general) I'd recommend Foreign Wives. Also don't know whether GWT is really worth it. Also heavenly temple I'd cut too. Reverence and awe might be useful too if you have several forts and/or sites.

If you want I can also send you my deck list of the white/music/Noah build - but the post rotation format I never really finetuned.

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Re: My take on rotation music/martyrs
« Reply #2 on: October 14, 2021, 10:00:01 AM »
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I don’t have alot of experience with this style deck but it seems like Royal Parade belongs here.
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Re: My take on rotation music/martyrs
« Reply #3 on: October 14, 2021, 11:31:00 AM »
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Royal parade would go in, if i had one.  I definitely dont have all the optimal cards for this deck tbh

Virgin birth added.  Foreign wives is already in reserve.  My main rescue with this deck will probably be 24 elders, so i leaned heavy into the heavenly temple/artifacts/music side of thing.  GWT is amazing, more decks should be using it, expecially as I Am Creator is no longer a thing

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Re: My take on rotation music/martyrs
« Reply #4 on: October 14, 2021, 11:55:42 AM »
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Hmm, but you'll need Heavenly Temple for GWT and Heavenly Temple arts to not have your art slot occupied.
Maybe Fearless Traveller might be fitting into your deck too. Or Miriam and Tabernacle...

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Re: My take on rotation music/martyrs
« Reply #5 on: October 14, 2021, 01:40:15 PM »
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I think I would cut Blasphemey's for "Did God really say" or "Table of Demons" (If you go with table of demons you should probably exchange one of your covenants to your reserve from main deck moving coliseum to main). The games ive played with Blasphemey ive just stared at it the whole game and wished it did something haha.

I love that fallen Angel is back! that is a cool include with all the demon decks running around.

I also like the care "Hope" alot in decks that are running Joy

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Re: My take on rotation music/martyrs
« Reply #6 on: October 14, 2021, 01:50:28 PM »
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I love that fallen Angel is back! that is a cool include with all the demon decks running around.

I’m pretty certain he meant The Fallen Star, particularly since this is a Rotation deck.
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Re: My take on rotation music/martyrs
« Reply #7 on: October 14, 2021, 02:13:07 PM »
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Oops yea, fallen star, my bad

I like Blasphemies cause it pulls a curse as well and this deck is all ablut making 24 elders work.  Did you find time where you wanted to negate something outside of battle with did God really say?

You can use heavely temple arts outside of heavenly temple.  I love it not just because of the hero search but also for the anti-banding part of its ability as well.  Plus if i really dont need it atm, its 24 elders fodder. 

I could see a version of this deck that uses the tabernacle, focusing more ore BotC and getting arts back with that every turn and having dutiful priests/gifts and offerings as a backup, will need to look into that

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Re: My take on rotation music/martyrs
« Reply #8 on: October 14, 2021, 03:56:19 PM »
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Oops yea, fallen star, my bad

I like Blasphemies cause it pulls a curse as well and this deck is all ablut making 24 elders work.  Did you find time where you wanted to negate something outside of battle with did God really say?

Mostly to negate one of those guys that are negating my neutrals or some of the good forts were nice to turn off for a turn. LS can need to be negated quite often too (distressed, accusers and company .
I think it is just a bit more versatile then blasphemies although you make a great point about 24 elders needing fuel!  that is a great point.

I still think i would go with table to go get my colesium or babel but thats just me! interesting arguments for all of them i guess.

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Re: My take on rotation music/martyrs
« Reply #9 on: October 14, 2021, 04:13:30 PM »
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I don't think you should have to choose between Blasphemies and Did God Really Say. Winning negate wars with large characters is what this defense is all about. Since they can both be pulled by Wages it should be pretty easy to slide one into reserve.
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Re: My take on rotation music/martyrs
« Reply #10 on: October 14, 2021, 04:34:52 PM »
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24 negates coliseum, otherwise i would def have it main decked.  Its mostly in there for a backup in case im using justin

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Re: My take on rotation music/martyrs
« Reply #11 on: October 14, 2021, 04:56:59 PM »
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If you use the Hannah + Ark + Cov with Abe + Sam in Reserve setup + Joy on Hannah (as I do in my build like mentioned above) you will get the same as with 24 Elders and a shuffled artifact p l u s you are also negating opponent's neutral cards every turn while having a low numbered hero in battle (1 toughness) that gives you ini and can be made CBN with Joy!

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Re: My take on rotation music/martyrs
« Reply #12 on: October 14, 2021, 05:25:20 PM »
+1
24 elders does most everything that hannah does by himself without all that elaborate set up, plus hes a 12/12 so i dont need inish, i just win by the numbers.  Heavenly temple makes him cbn same as joy, and GWT takes care of any banding my opponent has.

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Re: My take on rotation music/martyrs
« Reply #13 on: October 15, 2021, 07:39:51 PM »
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I'm a big fan of Reverence and Awe to help set up the cards you need. Add some Patmos to get Peter or Angel from the Sun (to get 24 Elders). If you have those pieces then you can grab Heavenly Temple. If the timing is right you might even banish something crucial from their discard pile.
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Re: My take on rotation music/martyrs
« Reply #14 on: October 15, 2021, 07:54:45 PM »
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@Gabe.

I am likely missing something but how does Angel from the Sun get The Twenty-Four Elders? I understand the part about Patmos to Peter or Angel from the Sun but when I checked the ORDIR, The Twenty-Four Elders are not listed as a martyr. So I am a bit confused...
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Re: My take on rotation music/martyrs
« Reply #15 on: October 15, 2021, 08:00:36 PM »
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@Gabe.

I am likely missing something but how does Angel from the Sun get The Twenty-Four Elders? I understand the part about Patmos to Peter or Angel from the Sun but when I checked the ORDIR, The Twenty-Four Elders are not listed as a martyr. So I am a bit confused...

That doesn't work. I got the Elders mixed up with The Two Witnesses. Elders aren't martyrs.
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Re: My take on rotation music/martyrs
« Reply #16 on: October 15, 2021, 08:05:04 PM »
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All rev and awe can search for in this deck is heavenly temple right now.  I could add patmos but that doesnt help me get to 24 any faster, just angel from the sun to justin (i ended up cutting peter as he doesnt help 24 and only really helps justin not die). I thought about adding throne of grace and focusing more on single brigade cards like today and hate wickedness, think that would be a good direction? Idk what to cut for it though, probably some of the martyrs stuff like angel from the sun and polycarp
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Re: My take on rotation music/martyrs
« Reply #17 on: October 17, 2021, 04:43:44 AM »
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Virgin Birth, Out of Egypt, Cov. w. Abe can take a Hero from Reserve. If you e.g. put Cov. w. Abe into Reserve (since you are using Exiles LS) + Angel of the Winds you can also quickly go for 24 Elders in deck. Another variant would be putting Elders into reserve for these cards.

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Re: My take on rotation music/martyrs
« Reply #18 on: October 17, 2021, 11:14:24 AM »
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Needs more defense imo. One of the things that made my deck very strong even before rotation was the Saul/Doeg/Medium package with ML recurring Today & Warning almost every turn. Or in later versions I'd use Leviathan + Behemoth with the orange + Gates + Wages and that was similarly strong. You can win those battles of attrition no problem. Either way, you've got options if you need them, and there's plenty to cut.
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Re: My take on rotation music/martyrs
« Reply #19 on: October 17, 2021, 02:22:37 PM »
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Needs more defense imo. One of the things that made my deck very strong even before rotation was the Saul/Doeg/Medium package with ML recurring Today & Warning almost every turn. Or in later versions I'd use Leviathan + Behemoth with the orange + Gates + Wages and that was similarly strong. You can win those battles of attrition no problem. Either way, you've got options if you need them, and there's plenty to cut.

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Re: My take on rotation music/martyrs
« Reply #20 on: October 17, 2021, 02:31:23 PM »
+1
This defense is actually already based on your defense, just with the humans in reserve