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My take on rotation flood
« on: October 06, 2021, 06:38:41 AM »
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Not using hopper or Chronicles because i dont have them, basing this on a deck i can actually make post rotation
Would beasts of the earth be good? Maybe Majestic Heavens?


Doms:
Chariots of fire (yes, it works)
TSC
Angel
3W
ANB
CM
Mayhem

LS:
Imitate
Dull
Forsaken
Lawless
Distress
Prosperity
Darkenss

DAC:
2 by 2
Delivered

Support:
Noahs ark
Storehouse
Pitch and gopher wood
Endless treasures
BotC
Cov noah
Rainbow
Stone pillar at Bethel
Egypt

Heroes:
8 flood survivors (loc shem and cloud noah)
Moses friend of God
Amos

GE:
Faith
Faith of noah
Rev and awe
Offering your son
FAC

EC:
Leviathan
Behemoth
Esau
Serpent
FW
Bab seige army

EE:
Wages
Betrayal
Scattered
Seized by babs
Lurking

Reserve:
Cov adam
Cov philistia
Oath of purity
YWR
Flood
Fish
Fire foxes
Serpents curse
Carcasses
Fire from heaven
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Re: My take on rotation flood
« Reply #1 on: October 06, 2021, 11:22:06 AM »
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Behemoth in reserve is screaming for a Lurking. I also like fire foxes in reserve because Storehouse pulls it. Unless I'm missing something, Egypt just to pull Ark doesn't seem great. How many characters can you play Delivered on, just three?
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Re: My take on rotation flood
« Reply #2 on: October 06, 2021, 01:43:43 PM »
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Lurking would def go in, if i had one. Egypt also pulls storehouse, really hoping to get the cov philistia-storehouse-animal thing going.  Only 3 for delivered, but i figure noah will most always be out so thats probably enough

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Re: My take on rotation flood
« Reply #3 on: October 06, 2021, 05:36:21 PM »
+1
Lurking would def go in, if i had one. Egypt also pulls storehouse, really hoping to get the cov philistia-storehouse-animal thing going.  Only 3 for delivered, but i figure noah will most always be out so thats probably enough
Egypt also pulls foreign wives
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Re: My take on rotation flood
« Reply #4 on: October 06, 2021, 07:13:56 PM »
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Lurking would def go in, if i had one. Egypt also pulls storehouse, really hoping to get the cov philistia-storehouse-animal thing going.  Only 3 for delivered, but i figure noah will most always be out so thats probably enough
Egypt also pulls foreign wives

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Re: My take on rotation flood
« Reply #5 on: October 06, 2021, 08:41:58 PM »
+1
Lurking would def go in, if i had one. Egypt also pulls storehouse, really hoping to get the cov philistia-storehouse-animal thing going.  Only 3 for delivered, but i figure noah will most always be out so thats probably enough
Egypt also pulls foreign wives

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Re: My take on rotation flood
« Reply #6 on: October 07, 2021, 10:06:52 AM »
+1
Not to mention that one of the major drawbacks of Foreign Wives (OG Throne of David) is now gone...  8)

That being said, I was in a game recently where I had Jonah, Fallen Star and Wasting Disease in play.

My opponent had Foreign Wives out...so rescuing with Elijah, I chose her to block. Yeah, that discard pile search for Household Idols is not optional... ::)
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Re: My take on rotation flood
« Reply #7 on: October 07, 2021, 05:20:31 PM »
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Re: My take on rotation flood
« Reply #8 on: October 07, 2021, 06:46:11 PM »
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...Land of Moab...

Wait, wut?
Foreign Wives is a Moabite, so Land of Moab (from Lineage of Christ) can search for her.

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Re: My take on rotation flood
« Reply #9 on: October 08, 2021, 04:25:58 PM »
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Foreign Wives is a Moabite, so Land of Moab (from Lineage of Christ) can search for her.
Thank you, (Jayden, I believe?)

Ah, I see where my confusion started.  The "all sets" spreadsheet I downloaded doesn't have LoC in it yet.  Also I haven't pulled one from a pack yet.  I thought a GoC spoiler might have been dropped.   ;)
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Re: My take on rotation flood
« Reply #10 on: October 08, 2021, 11:29:24 PM »
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Foreign Wives is a Moabite, so Land of Moab (from Lineage of Christ) can search for her.
Thank you, (Jayden, I believe?)

Ah, I see where my confusion started.  The "all sets" spreadsheet I downloaded doesn't have LoC in it yet.  Also I haven't pulled one from a pack yet.  I thought a GoC spoiler might have been dropped.   ;)
Ah, yep. That'll do it. And yes, Jayden is correct.  ;D Here's the LoC Set List if you'd like to update your spreadsheet at some point.

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Re: My take on rotation flood
« Reply #11 on: October 09, 2021, 10:40:41 AM »
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Do you think this would be playable using chariots of fire, moses friend of God, amos, and stone pillar at bethal?

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Re: My take on rotation flood
« Reply #12 on: October 09, 2021, 01:44:21 PM »
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Do you think this would be playable using chariots of fire, moses friend of God, amos, and stone pillar at bethal?
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Re: My take on rotation flood
« Reply #13 on: October 09, 2021, 01:46:03 PM »
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or play Cloud Moses and manipulate unity ;)

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Re: My take on rotation flood
« Reply #14 on: October 10, 2021, 07:36:17 AM »
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Doing some trading and getting an accusers LS.  LoC shem doesnt get CBP from noahs wife, is he really worth it even though he may get negated sometimes over CoW shem who would get CBP but has a much worse ability?

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Re: My take on rotation flood
« Reply #15 on: October 10, 2021, 08:15:53 PM »
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Doing some trading and getting an accusers LS.  LoC shem doesnt get CBP from noahs wife, is he really worth it even though he may get negated sometimes over CoW shem who would get CBP but has a much worse ability?
You're a little light on offensive battlewinners so I think LoC Shem is better so that you can win some battles through numbers and protection, but generally I'd say that having CBP Shem would be better if you're running Accusers. The ability really isn't THAT much worse. If you can use Oath of Purity to bounce an EC or two (or maybe exchange one in territory for Survivors in deck or discard with Noah) to reduce the number of your evil cards, making your opponent discard one can be especially good with how recyclable Flood Survivors are.

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Re: My take on rotation flood
« Reply #16 on: October 10, 2021, 08:23:21 PM »
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Thanks, did a practice game, playing around accusers was harder than i thought, but it was doable.

Question i had about noahs wife.  If she goes to the ark, does her negate stop? When she comes back, does her negate start up again or does she reset and you have no negates anymore until you play more flood survivors?

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Re: My take on rotation flood
« Reply #17 on: October 11, 2021, 01:00:05 PM »
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Every time Noah's Wife changes location, the negate resets - so going to Ark and entering battle both cause any negates she has going to end.

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Re: My take on rotation flood
« Reply #18 on: October 11, 2021, 01:06:55 PM »
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Thats what i thought, thanks

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Re: My take on rotation flood
« Reply #19 on: October 19, 2021, 08:03:29 AM »
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Testing has revealed this needs more soul gen.  Im wanting to add Majestic Heavens but cant seem to cut anything, any advice?

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Re: My take on rotation flood
« Reply #20 on: October 19, 2021, 11:03:23 AM »
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Testing has revealed this needs more soul gen.  Im wanting to add Majestic Heavens but cant seem to cut anything, any advice?
Is this including Shem's Wife letting you play an O.T. LS from a deck when Shem enters battle?

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Re: My take on rotation flood
« Reply #21 on: October 19, 2021, 02:22:24 PM »
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Yes, im also trying to prepare for when GoC comes out and ppl are using more NT souls though, right now shes most of the soul gen, other than covent and mayhem

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Re: My take on rotation flood
« Reply #22 on: October 19, 2021, 03:47:09 PM »
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Yes, im also trying to prepare for when GoC comes out and ppl are using more NT souls though, right now shes most of the soul gen, other than covent and mayhem

You've got 3 forms of soul gen, one of which is reusable every turn and comes out quickly. If that's not enough, maybe the problem is that you need more defense or better blocks?

If soul gen is truly the thing then maybe Egypt comes out for Majestic Heavens. If you do that you could try to squeeze "Hopper" in the Reserve too as those combo really nicely for "double soul gen"

I assume Foolish Shepherd is missing because you don't have him? He seems like he belongs here.
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Re: My take on rotation flood
« Reply #23 on: October 19, 2021, 04:10:40 PM »
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I was testing this against a nt LS deck and found i didnt have any way to generate souls for like 4 turns.  Could just be a very unlucky circumstance, but with exile and remnant getting nerfed with the 1st turn ban on reserve and nt coming in the next set (with revealer having nt soul unity) i see ot lost souls going away soon, so trying to not just rely on shems wife

I could see Egypt being the card to take out, but i really dont want to...will need to do more testing, maybe it was just a fluke...

Ive never been a big fan of foolish shepards.  Levi already gives protection from doms and dont like having a multi brigade character in territory if i can help it (though probably wont be so bad now that thrones gone) if i added him it would be for BSA probably and i cant see taking him out
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Re: My take on rotation flood
« Reply #24 on: October 19, 2021, 07:29:28 PM »
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You should just be running Hopper. I also think Imitate+Awake/Lawless should come back with the reserve rule.
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Re: My take on rotation flood
« Reply #25 on: October 19, 2021, 08:26:37 PM »
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Dont have the new hopper, or awake, which is why im running covet instead of the typical LS package most ppl are running

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Re: My take on rotation flood
« Reply #26 on: October 23, 2021, 10:14:50 AM »
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Updates:
Switched rainbow to reserve and cov noah to deck since i want cov noah 1st turn

Changed hunter for distress as now i dont need it to get remnant or exile 1st turn now and most of my other souls wont work with it

Just added Majestic Heavens,  making it a 51 card deck.  I need it and just cant bear to cut anything, i feel like ive fallen to the dark side....

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Re: My take on rotation flood
« Reply #27 on: November 08, 2021, 06:43:42 AM »
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After more testing, found that amos and moses are the plays, would reccommend, also switched up the LSs and few other minor tweaks, its back to 50!

Advice welcome
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Re: My take on rotation flood
« Reply #28 on: November 09, 2021, 12:17:54 PM »
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Why Reserve Rainbow over Maindeck?

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Read through the list and the thread for proper context. I think the only needed change is to exchange Fire Foxes and Rainbow, with the reasoning being you really need a maindeck Red Dragon/KoT check. Fire Foxes as a visible reserve pull can put the opponent through a mindgame of epic proportions if they do not have a good plan for the Fire Foxes. Rainbow is a card that you need the freedom of being able to offering your son to or grab off Japeth.
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Re: My take on rotation flood
« Reply #29 on: November 10, 2021, 06:30:09 AM »
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I like this idea, will be testing it.

I would like to put serpents curse in deck for turn 1 endless treasures, but cant decide what to move to reserve in its place, any suggestions?

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Re: My take on rotation flood
« Reply #30 on: November 10, 2021, 08:33:21 AM »
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At the risk of ending up with too few ECs in main deck, I'd say Great Fish. Pretty decent Reserve option to get with Lurking and can also be pulled out pretty easily with lots of other stuff.