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		Redemption® Collectible Trading Card Game HQ => Deck Building & Design => Type 1 Deck Advice => Topic started by: bmc25 on February 16, 2017, 05:10:11 PM
		
			
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				I've been toying around with some different ideas for lockout decks and was wondering if John Early's 2015 site lockout deck, or a variant thereof, would be a viable deck today?
 
 
 Does the arrest / Stoic philosophers combo still work?
 
 
 Cards in deck: 56
 
 Lost Souls: 7
 Rejoice
 3 Liner
 Female Only
 Site Doubler
 Hand Discard
 Speed Bump
 Thorns
 
 Dominants:7
 Shipwreck
 Burial
 Angel of the Lord
 Destruction of Nehushtan
 Falling Away
 Mayhem
 Christian Martyr
 
 Sites:6
 Pergamum
 Hostile Environment
 Fortress of Antonia (TEC)
 Fortress of Antonia (WA) (2)
 Damascus (TEC)
 
 Artifacts:5
 Holy of Holies
 Darius Decree
 Household Idols
 Shrine to Artemis
 The New Covenant
 
 Fortresses:4
 High Places
 The Gates of Hell
 Areopagus
 Herod’s Temple
 
 Evil Characters:13
 Demetrius the Silversmith
 Stoic Philosophers
 Epicurean Philosophers
 The Priest of Zeus
 Simon the Magician
 Antiochus IV Epiphanes
 Hellenistic Jews
 The Goat with Horn
 Wandering Spirit
 Trembling Demon
 King of Tyrus
 The god of this World
 Messenger of Satan
 
 Evil Enhancements:7
 Seized by Rioters
 Joseph in Prison
 Worldly Wisdom
 Danites Attack
 Abomination of Desolation
 Arrest in Gethsemane
 Table of Demons
 
 Dual-Alignment Enhancements:1
 Gamaliel’s Speech
 
 Good Enhancements:3
 Love
 Kindness
 Raising of Lazarus
 
 Heroes:3
 Zacchaeus
 Angel of Warning
 Watchful Servant
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				i believe yes this conceptually is still viable(really more so revolving around making your opponent deck out and having watchful servant), 
 
 but no- this current build is not strong enough to defend in this meta the way it did in 2015
 
 with certain build changes, yes it could be viable, but i think that if you are interested in this style of deck there are other more viable options currently such as:
 
 egyptian deck discard! :)
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				I have an Egyptian deck discard deck I'm working on that uses faithful servant, it's fun, but slow. 
 
 Does the arrest stoic combo still work?
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				Joshua and Moses put the biggest hurt on this deck. Joshua because he steals the Sites that help stall until the defense is fully set up and Moses obviously because he negates Stoics. 
 
 The Arrest/Stoic combo does still work, but is much less reliable due to Moses.
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				if you have your own joshua to steal back sites, then this might work, if you can keep holy of holies up while moses is out. 
			
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				if you have your own joshua to steal back sites, then this might work, if you can keep holy of holies up while moses is out. 
 
 
 Smart players discard sites stolen with Joshua
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				Joshua and Moses put the biggest hurt on this deck. Joshua because he steals the Sites that help stall until the defense is fully set up and Moses obviously because he negates Stoics. 
 
 The Arrest/Stoic combo does still work, but is much less reliable due to Moses.
 
 
 But doesn't Holy of Holies stop Moses too?
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				Holy of Holies is a prevent, so if Moses is already in play then Holy of Holies does not negate him.
			
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				What is a "lockout" deck?
			
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				Joshua and Moses put the biggest hurt on this deck. Joshua because he steals the Sites that help stall until the defense is fully set up and Moses obviously because he negates Stoics. 
 
 The Arrest/Stoic combo does still work, but is much less reliable due to Moses.
 
 
 Or if one of the sites is Caesarea Phillipi, which protects itself and other NT sites and an adds an extra layer of protection for your NT Greeks in territory.