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Title: Gates of Samaria
Post by: Bobbert on July 31, 2017, 09:46:11 PM
I know, I know, asking for advice mere days before Nats  :o

What exactly would a T1 Gates of Samaria defense look like these days? Would it still be worth a ludicrously large deck, or would something (relatively) small like 8 or 9 souls work?
Title: Re: Gates of Samaria
Post by: TheJaylor on August 01, 2017, 12:35:52 AM
I've seen fairly decent 56 card Gates of Samaria decks. I think it could even get away with 5 or 6 Samarias if you included some others like Ends of the Earth or just needed the extra space since it's 56. With King Ahaziah and Shrine to Artemis, resetting the Samaria's is pretty easy and you search them back out with King Omri. I think the main issue with it these days is that there are more cards that negate evil cards rather than specifically evil Enhancements. Samuel's Edict, My Lord and My God, and Overcome all come to mind as commonly used negates.
Title: Re: Gates of Samaria
Post by: The Guardian on August 01, 2017, 01:49:49 AM
Not to mention Three Woes...

I think it's a viable defense (a Brown defense with 3-4 Kings of Israel and 3-4 other strong Brown ECs should be decent), and then you just add 6 Samarias to a balanced 50 card deck. You can probably run a little lighter on EE since the Samarias will do some work, but again I don't think you can always count on Gates.
Title: Re: Gates of Samaria
Post by: Adevine on August 01, 2017, 10:06:28 AM
Not to mention Three Woes...

I think it's a viable defense (a Brown defense with 3-4 Kings of Israel and 3-4 other strong Brown ECs should be decent), and then you just add 6 Samarias to a balanced 50 card deck. You can probably run a little lighter on EE since the Samarias will do some work, but again I don't think you can always count on Gates.

You can have multiple samarias in a standard deck?
Title: Re: Gates of Samaria
Post by: Ironisaac on August 01, 2017, 10:11:28 AM
Yes, because they have no special ability, so you can have as many as you have souls.
Title: Re: Gates of Samaria
Post by: Josh on August 01, 2017, 10:24:20 AM
Gates of Samaria needs a fast offense paired with it.  I'd run it at 57 for the extra Dom and Samaria site, probably paired with a Throne offense.
Title: Re: Gates of Samaria
Post by: Ironisaac on August 01, 2017, 10:27:52 AM
I might say a BoM offense depending on what you are running for territory class stuff.
Title: Re: Gates of Samaria
Post by: The Guardian on August 01, 2017, 10:35:08 AM
With Gates itself, King Ahab and Foreign Exile, that's three chances to get Gates early. Those aren't bad odds, especially if the deck is not entirely based around Gates, and has some other battle winners included as well.
Title: Re: Gates of Samaria
Post by: Ironisaac on August 01, 2017, 10:45:14 AM
With Gates itself, King Ahab and Foreign Exile, that's three chances to get Gates early. Those aren't bad odds, especially if the deck is not entirely based around Gates, and has some other battle winners included as well.

You can also make it brown/orange and throw Abaddon in. Then you can have MoS, The Prince of Persia, and an orange, Israelite Kings of the Earth!
Title: Re: Gates of Samaria
Post by: The Guardian on August 01, 2017, 10:49:05 AM
Frog Demons probably fits in there too if you went that route.
Title: Re: Gates of Samaria
Post by: Josh on August 01, 2017, 11:05:45 AM
With Gates itself, King Ahab and Foreign Exile, that's three chances to get Gates early. Those aren't bad odds, especially if the deck is not entirely based around Gates, and has some other battle winners included as well.

Hiram and Solomon can search out GoS if paired with Throne.
Title: Re: Gates of Samaria
Post by: Minister Polarius on August 08, 2017, 07:40:14 PM
I think the time for Gates was before Three Woes, but if you do run a Gates offense six is ridiculous. Four on the high end and two on the low end will be plenty. Just make sure you got that Shrine (recycle Woes when it's down and a Samaria when it's not) and Fire Foxes.
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