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Redemption® Collectible Trading Card Game HQ => Deck Building & Design => Type 1 Deck Advice => Topic started by: bmc25 on March 13, 2017, 10:41:58 AM
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53 Cards:
In light of the watchman that is going to be released, I’ve been playing around with this for fun lately.
Any thoughts / Suggestions?
Quick notes:
Live coal, Two bears, Eli the priest and urim and thummim would be my, “Next Cards in”
I'd also like to get 1-2 evil weapon class enhancements in here for slowing down throne decks.
Lost Souls
Lost Soul (Dull)
Lost Soul (Lawless)
Lost Soul (Awake)
Lost Soul Jeremiah 11:8 (CBP)
Lost Soul Jeremiah 17:9 (Punisher)
Lost Souls (Two Liner)
Lost Soul Ezekiel 34:6 (Exchanger)
Doms
Angel of the Lord (I)
Son of God (I)
The Second Coming
Destruction of Nehushtan
Falling Away (Wo)
Mayhem
Shipwreck (EC)
Arts / Curses
Rain Becomes Dust
Magic Charms
Golden Cherubim
Multi-Colored Offence
Moses (CoW)
Aaron (Di)
Ezekiel (FooF)
Samuel (RoA)
David the Psalmist
Gideon (COW)
Faith of Samuel
Word of Their Testimony
Faith of Gideon
Good/Evil
Drawn Sword (FooF)
Forest Fire (FooF)
Silver:
The Angel Under the Oak
Green:
Benaiah (Wa)
Armorbearer
The Watchman
Two bears
Benaiah Snatches a Spear
Gold:
Samuel's Edict
Ehud’s Dagger
Multi-Colored Evil:
Foreign Wives
The Serpent (Promo)
Damsel with Spirit of Divination (TxP)
Lions
Astrologers (TxP)
Egyptian Magicians
Scattered
Invoking Terror
Confusion (CoW)
Crimson:
Nebuchadnezzar (TxP)
Nergalsharezer
Nebushasban
Great Image
Hypocrisy (EC)
Nebuchadnezzar's Pride
Dissension in Antioch
Pale Green:
Death of Unrighteous
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Cool deck! Needs more Reserve. ;)
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I would swap Jair for Gideon. Since Gideon searches out Faith, he's essentially a D1 (instead of Jair's D2) and he gets the AutO protection.
I would cut one of GC/RBD/Signet Ring since you can only have one of them active at a time.
Beyond that, I'm not sure what I would cut--possibly Desecrate the Temple since less than half your ECs can use it.
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Cool deck! Needs more Reserve. ;)
I read that article this morning, I love how the reserve is going to work. Great job to all of you guys coming up with these fantastic ideas. I am looking forward to seeing how the new set impacts my reserve selection.
I would swap Jair for Gideon. Since Gideon searches out Faith, he's essentially a D1 (instead of Jair's D2) and he gets the AutO protection.
I would cut one of GC/RBD/Signet Ring since you can only have one of them active at a time.
Beyond that, I'm not sure what I would cut--possibly Desecrate the Temple since less than half your ECs can use it.
I do like the Jair for Gideon swap, I am leaning toward cutting Signet Ring out of those three, and I could stand to lose Desecrate the Temple. It always works much better in theory than in practice.
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Cool deck! Needs more Reserve. ;)
Now that I'm not on my phone, I'll elaborate. With The Watchman in your main deck, there's not really any drawback to putting a few Major/Minor prophets in the Reserve. In the event that you face a situation where one of them would be really useful you can grab him!
Jeremiah (negates protection)
Daniel (negate like a boss and counters Nebuchadnezzar)
Hosea (anti-O.T. banding and Gomer)
Obadiah (anti-pale green)
Micah (recursion baby!)
Nahum (anti-panel green and Site access)
Habakkuk (negate protection and discards warriors)
Zechariah (negates N.T. EEs but is outclassed by Daniel)
That's quite to toolbox to have available!
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Wow, when you think about it like that the reserve is REALLY going to change the game. That ability to grab what you need is going to allow for a lot of interesting battles.
I could definitely see myself using some combination of Daniel / Micah / Habbakkuk / Nahum in the reserve.
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I'd be tempted to post my own Watchman deck, but it's so full of spoilers it would never get through uncensered. ::)
What I can say to you is that I don't really feel comfortable not running Christian Martyr with this kind of spread defense. An early FBTN angel can quickly get 1 or 2 free souls if you don't have Nebby/Hypocrisy/Dissension.
I'd recommend Treasures o' War (CoW) in a deck like this rather than DoN. It frees up a dom slot for the aft-mentioned CM or possibly Grapes. I know you have Moses, but he's not always around, and often I find myself holding on to Treasures to use immediately rather than having it sit vulnerable in territory.
I might swap Armorbearer with Strong Angel (wa).
I really like this deck! Another consideration; this defense would be brutal with more side battle cards. If you were to make this a dedicated side battle offense with Hidden Treasures, more green, and more defensive cards to take advantage of side battles, I could see it being pretty successful.
Gabe is absolutely right about Reserve; Micah and Hosea seem perfect for that. There are another couple green cards I could see going into a lot of prophet decks' Reserves, depending on how easy they would be to get when needed...
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I like CM, but I've played a lot of games without it and don't miss it all that much.
You mentioned Nebby/Hypocrisy/Dissension
I also have CBP Lost soul and drawn sword. But in all honesty, I did not think about TSA when building this deck so I will keep play-testing to see if it turns out to be more of a problem.
I like your idea of taking out don to get CM in the deck and if I did take it out it would be for faith of abel.
I have armorbearer because I can band Sam - armorbearer - Moses / Benaiah give me 10/10 FBN with 2 heroes in battle and the ability to play green/gold CBP/CBN Enhancements.
I also like that I can band to David / King saul when playing against a throne or 1 Sam offence.
In regard to the side battles I don't want to completely change the deck, it's a lot of fun as is, but I do appreciate you pointing out the trouble it may have with the Strong Angel...and the means to add CM.
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Have you tried playing this at 57 cards? I've had a lot of success with my 57 card deck recently. You are already at 52, so you get to add 5 cards, 1 of which is a LS and 1 of which is a Dom. It's at least worth testing.
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Have you tried playing this at 57 cards? I've had a lot of success with my 57 card deck recently. You are already at 52, so you get to add 5 cards, 1 of which is a LS and 1 of which is a Dom. It's at least worth testing.
I haven't tried it at 57 yet, I thought about it, but it isn't all that fast. I almost always run 52 cards in my decks. I try to get 2 extra battle winners in the deck with the last 2 cards.
I might give it a run at 57. If I did what would you add?
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Edit: I added two bears because I found I needed an interrupt and I switched eli's sound advice for Benaiah Snatches a spear because I only had 1 tabernacle priest (Aaron) and I couldn't play Eli's sound advice off of benaiah.
Benaiah Snatches a spear has been awesome as it serves as a Cbn negate to play on Moses / Benaiah.
This has brought me to 53 cards, but it hasn't seemed to make any difference.