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Redemption® Collectible Trading Card Game HQ => Deck Building & Design => Type 1 Deck Advice => Topic started by: New Raven BR on February 28, 2009, 01:36:31 PM
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Cards in deck: 63
Lost Souls: 8
Lost Soul (anti-burial)
Lost Soul (can't be prevented)
Lost Soul (Female Only)
Lost Soul (N.T. only)
Lost Soul (revealer)
Lost Soul (shuffler)
Lost Soul (Site Discard)
Lost Soul (Wanderer)
Lamb Dominants: 4
Angel of the Lord
Guardian Of Your Souls
New Jerusalem
Son of God
Grim Reaper Dominants: 4
Burial
Christian Martyr
Destruction of Nehushtan
Falling Away
Fortresses: 4
High Priest's Palace
Storehouse
The Throne of David
Wall of Protection
Multi-Color Sites: 1
Dragon Raid
Gold Sites: 1
Jerusalem
Artifacts: 3
Chariot of Fire
Holy of Holies
Urim and Thummim
White Covenant Cards: 1
I am Truth
Gold Covenant Cards: 1
I am Redemption
Multi-Color Heroes: 1
Melchizedek (purple/teal)
Purple Heroes: 7
Esther
Ethiopian Treasurer
King David
King Hiram
King Lemuel
King's Daughter
Widow
Multi-Color Hero Enhancements: 1
Pentecost
Purple Hero Enhancements: 9
Authority of Christ
Coat of Mail
Five Smooth Stones
Glittering Sword
Great Faith
Prosperity
Reach of Desperation
Royal Parade
The Word Spreads
Black Evil Characters: 9
Captain of the Temple Guard
High Priest Ananias
High Priest Annas
High Priest Caiaphas
Locust from the Pit
Lot's Wife
Sadducees
Sadducees
Sadducees
Multi-Color Evil Enhancements: 1
Lying Unto God
Black Evil Enhancements: 8
Babel
Devourer
High Priest's Plot
Intent to Kill
Joseph in Prison
Net
Pride of Simon
Wrath of Satan
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You don't need silver in your deck.
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I'd switch Cher/Swift beings out for I am truth and coat of mail but thats me.
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back on topic
I'd switch Cher/Swift beings out for I am truth and coat of mail but thats me.
done
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You need to make your deck smaller, like down to 50 if you can. I don't have time to say specifics, but there's a lot of stuff that can be taken out to make your deck way more effective.
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decreasing my deck does nothing
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I'd agree with SS, but 56 not 50. Decreasing your deck DOES help, you'll get all your important cards out a few turns earlier.
Here is what I would take out
Lost Soul (anti-burial)
Storehouse
Jerusalem
Great Faith
Locust from the Pit
I am Redemption
Holy of Holies?
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your nuts, sauce
great faith is a good card for purple and you'd be a noob to suggest to take out great faith
Lost Soul (anti-burial)
Storehouse
Jerusalem
Great Faith
Locust from the Pit
I am Redemption
Holy of Holies?
leaving in storehouse,jerusalem helps with my sad defense, locust helps against sitelocks, i am redemption returns captured heroes,and HoH is against those pesky fbtn. and a burial i'v been using for as long as i can remember.
50-56 does not help and i like having my deck at 63, i can get to my cards just as quick with reach and prosperity
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your nuts, sauce
great faith is a good card for purple and you'd be a noob to suggest to take out great faith
Lost Soul (anti-burial)
Storehouse
Jerusalem
Great Faith
Locust from the Pit
I am Redemption
Holy of Holies?
leaving in storehouse,jerusalem helps with my sad defense, locust helps against sitelocks, i am redemption returns captured heroes,and HoH is against those pesky fbtn. and a burial i'v been using for as long as i can remember.
50-56 does not help and i like having my deck at 63, i can get to my cards just as quick with reach and prosperity
False:love your learning spirit :thumbup: :False Sauce is one of the better players I knoww take his advice and drop it to 50
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To be honest... I also agree with everything Sauce said, he's in second on the SOT, and I've personally beaten this deck three times. It's too big. However, take out the word spreads, not great faith. Other than that... just TRY it Andy. You can always change it. Just give it a try. Please.
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I definately agree that 56 will help this particular deck. However, Andy is a stubborn ox who thinks he is a genius at deckbuilding and he will continue to refuse to take people's advice.
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no, i'm not trying it.
i'v tried it and it doesn't work
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Have you tried it with this deck? Probably not. So you don't know. Stop shooting down advice because it hasn't worked before. If things that didn't work before never worked, Heroless would never work, Defenseless would never work, Stonewall would never work. Seriously, try it. Unless your some mad scientist jenuis who is better at redemption than everyone who has posted here.
And by try it, I mean multiple games, not one game or two, more like 5 or 6 at least.
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Guys he apparently doesn't care about becoming better, he just wants to have a good time. Don't waste your time, I've learned my lesson from this and you should too. If he truly wanted to be good he would try to be good. I'm not ever giving him or someone like him advice again, it's not worth my breath.
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Guys he apparently doesn't care about becoming better, he just wants to have a good time. Don't waste your time, I've learned my lesson from this and you should too. If he truly wanted to be good he would try to be good. I'm not ever giving him or someone like him advice again, it's not worth my breath.
+1
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Andy, this is exactly why you don't get better when it comes to deck building, You don't experiment at all. I suggested you try new archetypes and all you've done is say no to all the suggestions. Well (sighs) at least I got ya to realize why Coat of mail is wyn.
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if only you could make sauce see why the cards he listed to take out are wyn
and soulsaver, you say i want to have a good time and that's true but unfortunatly i don't which i'm gonna try and change soon
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if only you could make sauce see why the cards he listed to take out are wyn
The point isn't taking them out because they're not good. The point of taking them out is because they are the worst ones in your deck.
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if only you knew how useful some of those cards are sauce
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HE DOES! He's an excellent player. He's second place in a tournament against several national champions, losing only to Bryon Gabe in the final week. He has tried all those cards I'M SURE and he knows that they aren't worth the six extra cards in your deck. Just try it. And until that deck changes to 56, I think I speak for all of us when I say that I'm not giving any more advice.
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+1. You speak for me.
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I don't think I deserve as much credit as you guys are giving me. The only reason I got second was
-A long chain of lucky streaks (Great draws)
-I'm one of the few people using a speed deck. (For most of my games, anyway)
-I stole the original version of my deck from Gabe.... ::)..... Its plenty different now though 8).
With that being said, I still feel those changes are for the best. I only offer advice on things that I feel sure of; that I feel are correct. I'm still not at the deck making level of many other people that have offered suggestions on this thread, but it is still an improvement.
I have created a Black defense that has been insanely successful before, so I know how useful it is. Royalty happens to be my favorite offensive theme, so I know that too ;)
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i'll make a smaller version of the current deck since you say you know royalty and black defenses
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I too know royalty deck, as my purple kings have gone 17-3.
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HOLY OF HOLIES!!!
17-3?! dang
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i'll make a smaller version of the current deck since you say you know royalty and black defenses
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HOLY OF HOLIES!!!
17-3?! dang
Yeah... It lost to... Gospeed, SS... and... dang, I can't remember. But it beat Gabe! Woo! Definitely the highlight of my redemption career. ;D
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Sorry, I didn't catch that before. Take out widow for another female royalty(esther, pharoah's daughter, queen of sheba, king's daughter), and take out ET for King hiram. He's definitely great for getting out Ttod!
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Sorry, I didn't catch that before. Take out widow for another female royalty(esther, pharoah's daughter, queen of sheba, king's daughter), and take out ET for King hiram. He's definitely great for getting out Ttod!
Go to sleep/put on glasses/stop multi tasking :P. He already has King Hiram and 2 Royal females in there!
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Sorry, I didn't catch that before. Take out widow for another female royalty(esther, pharoah's daughter, queen of sheba, king's daughter), and take out ET for King hiram. He's definitely great for getting out Ttod!
i already have esther and king's daughter and idk what everyone's problem is with widow but i wanna know, why does widow get dissed?
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I have all 4 female foyalty in my royalty deck. :D I'm serious. It's useful, trust me. I know what I'm saying. Well... kinda. :)
EDIT: widow gets dissed because she isn't royalty. Bottom line. A lot of good stuff won't help her as much. Same with ET.
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your wrong!: decreasing your deck does make it more efective for two reasons.
1. decreasing your deck makes you deck out faster decking out faster somehow makes your deck more powerful it doesnt seem that way but it does
2. if you didnt get the first reason go back and read it again please.
Fail. 1+1=/=1 Fail.
dude trust me i always do this with my deck i lose control of the card amount but if you stick to one card amount lets say under 55 cards your deck will do better all you have to do with your sadds is this.
And what is the logic of under 55 cards? 56 is what he needs.
keep two of your realy high number sadds get rid of one regular sadducee card (trust me on this one)
DEFINITELY not. High numbers = lose. Low numbers = init = Just a Hirling. Think about your advice. How will you play just a hireling if you have high numbers?
and get rid of jerusalem because they gotta make a rescue at that site wich means they most likely have to have jacobs ladder active.
You have no clue what you are talking about.
Jerusalem is not there for sites. It is there to gain his people numbers. Now, jacob's ladder has NOTHING TO DO with this. You have no clue what you are talking about. I do not mean to be rude or cruel, but you need to stop posting when you don't know what you are talking about.
trust me i used sadducees and they will do pretty good if you follow my instructions.
Actually, you will IMO do worse with these ideas. They will not help.
and do listen to us dude im like 10 yrs younger then you and your still shooting down advice i did that and it doesnt get you any help from any one. plus the whole idea about posting your deck is to get advice from somone.
+1 with this quote. Andy, take peoples advice and as RR said:
You don't experiment at all.
Experiment!
I have all 4 female foyalty in my royalty deck. :D I'm serious. It's useful, trust me. I know what I'm saying. Well... kinda. :)
WYN! I love it.
i already have esther and king's daughter and idk what everyone's problem is with widow but i wanna know, why does widow get dissed?
She seems very popular to me. I like using her.
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I have all 4 female foyalty in my royalty deck. :D I'm serious. It's useful, trust me. I know what I'm saying. Well... kinda. :)
I demand a game against that deck some time.... ::). I find 2 are enough for Lemuel.
Here is my favorite purple hero configuration
Purple Heroes: 7
Esther
King David
King Hiram
King Jotham
King Lemuel
King's Daughter
Melchizedek
I like Widow, just no room.
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Esther
King David
King Hiram
King Jotham
King Lemuel
King's Daughter
Melchizedek
Only one female... tsk tsk tsk. And I would love to play you sometime. :)
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Esther
King David
King Hiram
King Jotham
King Lemuel
King's Daughter
Melchizedek
Only one female... tsk tsk tsk. And I would love to play you sometime. :)
So, which one isn't a female... Esther or King's Daughter?
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i'd rather not take your advice musicain cause i don't think your ready to give it cause your still just a new player
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Not to sound mean but I hope he didn't listen to you austin, at least on this
and get rid of jerusalem because they gotta make a rescue at that site wich means they most likely have to have jacobs ladder active.
Jacob's ladder is almost never seen in competitive play :-p
I do agree just a hireling would be helpful.
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but it isn't helpful AT ALL with high numbered sads.
this will not work if you have 6 lost souls in play
It will not work if you have 4. You would give up a LS otherwise.
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No it isn't. Thats why I said I agree it would be helpful, not with the rest of it though :-p
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Fail. Edit =/= new post. Fail.
Also, I still do not agree with your advice. Why not set aside a small sad and get him to 1/1? That would be much better.
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well no because people would want to target the big boys.
your not one of the big boys, musicain
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aww, gocha now, ;) ;) ;) it would be exept he would be a easyer target.... well no because people would want to target the big boys.
Um no. Good players LOVE it when you block with big numbered people. It is the low numbered people that are dangerous. *Looks at my deck and find no one higher than 3/3.*
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Musicain, I don't think you know what you're talking about. When you first start redemption, all the good 10/10 guys and stuff seem good, but as you play, they are the dumbest characters to have, unless they negate all special abilites. Trust me, if someone defends my deck with a 10/11 guy, I would love it, I would get to draw like 10 cards and then win the battle with cannot be negated battle winners.
And it would not work if they have six. If you played just a hireling, then it would stay in battle with the other sadducee. You'd have to come up sith some kind of combo with unknown nation, but now it's so complicated that there's not point. It wouldn't work.
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aww, gocha now, ;) ;) ;) it would be exept he would be a easyer target.... well no because people would want to target the big boys.
Um no. Good players LOVE it when you block with big numbered people. It is the low numbered people that are dangerous. *Looks at my deck and find no one higher than 3/3.*
My crown of thorns deck wants to play you.
Now see I disagree with yall sometimes big numbers can be good. I use alot of high #'d characters but I have combo with them to allow them to be useful. Just throwing in the highest # enh doesn't win battles. Every character is useful, ya just gotta know how to use them. Then again, I don't count do I?
High # for sake of high # = bad
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Rabsaris+Rabshekah+2k horses=big numbers=d2=you die
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aww, gocha now, ;) ;) ;) it would be exept he would be a easyer target.... well no because people would want to target the big boys.
Um no. Good players LOVE it when you block with big numbered people. It is the low numbered people that are dangerous. *Looks at my deck and find no one higher than 3/3.*
My crown of thorns deck wants to play you.
Now see I disagree with yall sometimes big numbers can be good. I use alot of high #'d characters but I have combo with them to allow them to be useful. Just throwing in the highest # enh doesn't win battles. Every character is useful, ya just gotta know how to use them. Then again, I don't count do I?
High # for sake of high # = bad
I agree with RR :D. High numbers are great if you know how to use them, the deck I've played with in the SOT was tons of banding (often NOT FBTN); and it has beaten some great players.
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aww, gocha now, ;) ;) ;) it would be exept he would be a easyer target.... well no because people would want to target the big boys.
Um no. Good players LOVE it when you block with big numbered people. It is the low numbered people that are dangerous. *Looks at my deck and find no one higher than 3/3.*
I think it is good to have some big # characters for end game blocks. There have been many times that my defense has held because they dong have the #'s on offense to get above my banding chain on Defense. I dont band much during the game, But I like to have the option to band at the end, after people have decked out.
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I posted that when one of the players on this thread said that he didn't have big # EC and wanted you to take out your three big sadd. I am here telling you to keep some in because of end game strategies. If you dont want to bother to hear that then why post your deck?
By the way, I would take out the umin and thumin since you only have one priest who can use it and I would replace it with Throne of David. You dont need umin and Thumin as much as a royalty deck needs the Throne of David
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I am here telling you to keep some in because of end game strategies.
i wasn't intending on taking out my 3 high numbered sads
I would take out the umin and thumin since you only have one priest who can use it and I would replace it with Throne of David. You dont need umin and Thumin as much as a royalty deck needs the Throne of David
not just one, but 3 hps which is why i'm leaving U&T in, oh and throne of david is ALREADY in there
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I would take out the umin and thumin since you only have one priest who can use it and I would replace it with Throne of David. You dont need umin and Thumin as much as a royalty deck needs the Throne of David
not just one, but 3 hps which is why i'm leaving U&T in, oh and throne of david is ALREADY in there
Sorry about the throne of David, i must have skipped over it and missed.
But where are the High Preists for you to use U&T? Melckizideck cant use it ( I thought he could but he isn't a HP. and none of the roaylty are HP so who do you think is going to use it? It could be Uzzah bait ..if you had uzzah but, unless Iam mistaken, There is no way for you to use U&T
NVM.. I for got to look at the defense...sorry
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you need more site access