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Title: 8 cards
Post by: CJSports on April 17, 2011, 05:09:38 PM
I need an 8 card defense. It needs to pull of just a few blocks. The deck will deck out very quickly. Can probably pull out at most 3 cards so you can suggest eleven but not advisable.
Title: Re: 8 cards
Post by: Nameless on April 17, 2011, 05:23:43 PM
you could use something like this:


gomer
KOT
spirit of temtotion
king M
plot
m charms
gates of J
and maybe another majition or enhancenent
Title: Re: 8 cards
Post by: CJSports on April 17, 2011, 05:38:50 PM
Probably not worth it with only one enhancement to play on king man and probably won't pull off to many blocks.
Title: Re: 8 cards
Post by: Nameless on April 17, 2011, 05:40:06 PM
you could band them all and add a forgoten history
Title: Re: 8 cards
Post by: TheHobbit13 on April 17, 2011, 06:12:53 PM
PO
PAB
Philistine Garrison
KOT
uzzah
Manny
gomer
plot

Although I find it more effective to go slighly larger.
Title: Re: 8 cards
Post by: Minister Polarius on April 17, 2011, 06:41:18 PM
Hobbit's is the best except axe PAB and do GoJ. For just two more cards you can add a ton of power in HP and Trick.
Title: Re: 8 cards
Post by: CJSports on April 17, 2011, 06:57:20 PM
Still not exactly what I was thinking. I would rather not use a KoT seeing as he is decked in another deck and King Many is getting so old for me. Anymore....
Title: Re: 8 cards
Post by: TheHobbit13 on April 17, 2011, 07:15:05 PM
How else do you want to run a splash defense? That is about the most bang for your buck you can get.



Title: Re: 8 cards
Post by: Irish_Luck on April 17, 2011, 07:50:04 PM
Panic Demon
Panic Demon
Panic Demon
Panic Demon
Panic Demon
Panic Demon
Panic Demon
Wandering Spirit
Title: Re: 8 cards
Post by: CJSports on April 17, 2011, 08:14:24 PM
How else do you want to run a splash defense? That is about the most bang for your buck you can get.




I've heard that Phars can run pretty well on a small defense. I don't see King Manny being that great for a small defense. What about single block, doesn't even have to be characters.
Title: Re: 8 cards
Post by: Minister Polarius on April 17, 2011, 08:39:31 PM
Manny's got CBN banding an 2 CBN blocks with Gates.
Title: Re: 8 cards
Post by: Alex_Olijar on April 17, 2011, 08:39:46 PM
SWS + Wandering Spirit. Defense made.
Title: Re: 8 cards
Post by: TheHobbit13 on April 17, 2011, 09:06:54 PM
Panic Demon
Panic Demon
Panic Demon
Panic Demon
Panic Demon
Panic Demon
Panic Demon
Wandering Spirit
How will you that block a rescue?
Title: Re: 8 cards
Post by: Mr.Hiatus on April 17, 2011, 10:00:41 PM
Well you can use immunity, banding, or a mix. That or you can use all auto block stuff.
Trembling Demon
False Teachers
+ O.T. Enhancement for him
Uzzah
Zimri
+ enhancement
Torment
some big dude or immunity or something

Or you can do a small band with a couple support enhancements.

5 EC's 3 EE's
Gomer-you can even do the crimson one if you wanted
Spirit of Temptation
Wandering Spirit
Creeping Deceiver
Sapphira-this replaces your KoT and deceiver can band to her

Midianite Attack
Neb's Pride
Lurking? or another negate

Or immunity, which I do not recommend, but here is some EC's to think about

Garrison
Nero
Claudius
Phil Bearer
12fg, he works
PotW
and I would do a Bringing Fear and Foolish Advice which brings me to my next mini defense

Philistines

Armor Bearer
Fallen Warrior
Garrison
12FG

Outpost

Bringing Fear
Foolish Advice
Joseph in Prison

Pharisees works too

Proud Pharisee
Scribe, not a Pharisee but he can recur disobedience when you deck out
Pharisees
The Entrapping Pharisee
Balaam, he will do good for your defense because he can recur the curse at the end

Wash Basin
Balaam's Disobedience
Unsuccessful


I mean you can do with this with almost any color. Just pick the best 4-6 EC's and 2-3 supporting enhancements.
Title: Re: 8 cards
Post by: TheJaylor on April 17, 2011, 10:31:25 PM
Well as far as Pharisees go I would suggest Washing Hands and not Wash Basin Mr. Haitus ;).
I would do something like...
-Pharisees(Any of the generic ones)
-Proud Pharisee
-Entrapping Pharisees
-Sabbath Breaker
-Scribe
-False Peace
-Balaam's Disobediene
-Washing Hands
-Self-Righteous Prayer
I hope this helps.
Title: Re: 8 cards
Post by: Irish_Luck on April 18, 2011, 12:28:02 AM
Panic Demon
Panic Demon
Panic Demon
Panic Demon
Panic Demon
Panic Demon
Panic Demon
Wandering Spirit
How will you that block a rescue?
Most battle winners that I have seen don't kill off a lot of evil characters just one or two. And if you have wandering spirit out your panic demons won't die. Also some of them have fun effects like kicking a LS out of a site, drawing a card, discarding from deck, ect.
Title: Re: 8 cards
Post by: RTSmaniac on April 18, 2011, 12:59:36 AM
Well as far as Pharisees go I would suggest Washing Hands and not Wash Basin Mr. Haitus ;).
I would do something like...
-Pharisees(Any of the generic ones)
-Proud Pharisee
-Entrapping Pharisees
-Sabbath Breaker
-Scribe
-False Peace
-Balaam's Disobediene
-Washing Hands
-Self-Righteous Prayer
I hope this helps.
thats 9 cards take out false peace
Title: Re: 8 cards
Post by: CJSports on April 18, 2011, 08:04:46 AM
Sabbath Breaker is already in the deck. ;D
Title: Re: 8 cards
Post by: Master KChief on April 18, 2011, 08:24:22 AM
i would suggest taking out washing hands, its requires a discard of an evil card which will most times either be non-existent or detrimental, and its not even a nigh-guaranteed block. there are better nt grey enhancements.
Title: Re: 8 cards
Post by: Noah on April 18, 2011, 01:13:37 PM
Here's what I would use for a Pharisee defense.

Cards 11

Forts 1

High Priest's Palace

Arts 1

Unholy Writ

EC 4

Scribe
Proud Pharisee
Entraping Pharisees
Hard-Haerted Religious Leaders

EE 5

Just a Hireling
Tenants Kill the Son
Balaam's Disobedience
Self-Righteous Prayer
Pretension
Title: Re: 8 cards
Post by: Cpt.Jaeger on April 18, 2011, 01:24:21 PM
I feel as tho magicians/demons would do well....

Cards: 12 (ik, getting big)

Magic charms
unholy writ
gates of j

enchanter
king manny
wandering spirit
spirit of tempt
seven wicked spirits
KOT

achan's sin
death of unrighteous
suicidal swine stampede

should handle a solid 4 blocks, maybe more
Title: Re: 8 cards
Post by: Warrior_Monk on April 18, 2011, 01:43:03 PM
Philistine Outpost
Philistine Garrison
Philistine Armor Bearer
12FG
Bringing Fear
Foolish Advice
Joseph in Prison
Devourer
-------------------------------------------------------------------
Gomer
Uzzah
KoT (gold)
Ammy Slave (assuming you don't already use it)
Complainers
Holy Grail (assuming you don't already use it)
Haman's Plot
Gib's Trick
--------------------------------------------------------------------
Pharisees
Proud Pharisee
Scribe
Entrapping Pharisee
Balaam's Disobedience
Self Righteous Prayer
Just a Hireling
Pretension
--------------------------------------------------------------------
Trembling Demon
Holy of Holies
Uzzah
Seven Sons of Sceva
Complainers
Holy Grail (assuming you don't already use it)
Seven Wicked Spirits
And you still have room for one more
Title: Re: 8 cards
Post by: TheKarazyvicePresidentRR on April 18, 2011, 02:23:22 PM
8 cards
HHI
PAB
Phil Garri
Red dragon
Nero
Potw
Gomer

Very heavy immune based, but very good if you can get that HHI out quick.
Lurking
Title: Re: 8 cards
Post by: TheHobbit13 on April 18, 2011, 06:07:16 PM
There are so many negate SA  cards that I don't think a defense like that is viable anymore.

Panic Demon
Panic Demon
Panic Demon
Panic Demon
Panic Demon
Panic Demon
Panic Demon
Wandering Spirit
How will you that block a rescue?
Most battle winners that I have seen don't kill off a lot of evil characters just one or two. And if you have wandering spirit out your panic demons won't die. Also some of them have fun effects like kicking a LS out of a site, drawing a card, discarding from deck, ect.
All you need to kill is one or two and the whole chain is pretty much dead, provided that the play can  have enough in their hand at one time to block. Also there is no way for this deck to get the demons off the bottom after ws text is used.
Title: Re: 8 cards
Post by: Warrior_Monk on April 18, 2011, 06:30:35 PM
Holy Grail my own 12FG. Pwnt.
Title: Re: 8 cards
Post by: RTSmaniac on April 18, 2011, 06:43:10 PM
Philistine Outpost
Philistine Garrison
Philistine Armor Bearer
12FG
Bringing Fear
Foolish Advice
Joseph in Prison
Devourer
-------------------------------------------------------------------
Gomer
Uzzah
KoT (gold)
Ammy Slave (assuming you don't already use it)
Complainers
Holy Grail (assuming you don't already use it)
Haman's Plot
Gib's Trick
--------------------------------------------------------------------
Pharisees
Proud Pharisee
Scribe
Entrapping Pharisee
Balaam's Disobedience
Self Righteous Prayer
Just a Hireling
Pretension
--------------------------------------------------------------------
Trembling Demon
Holy of Holies
Uzzah
Seven Sons of Sceva
Complainers
Holy Grail (assuming you don't already use it)
Seven Wicked Spirits
And you still have room for one more

Best post ever.
Title: Re: 8 cards
Post by: CJSports on April 18, 2011, 08:12:21 PM

Trembling Demon
Holy of Holies
Uzzah
Seven Sons of Sceva
Complainers
Holy Grail (assuming you don't already use it)
Seven Wicked Spirits
And you still have room for one more

What if I added a temple WS and Crown of thorns. WS to TD every turn I get a block if they make a rescue with someone greater than 3/1 and WS and TD go to bottom next turn bring out WS then reveal bottom with WS and band TD into battle.
Title: Re: 8 cards
Post by: Warrior_Monk on April 18, 2011, 08:20:06 PM
Too much. If the game lasts that long you'll be lucky, but you could drop Seven Sons, Complainers, and the Grail.
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