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Redemption® Collectible Trading Card Game HQ => Redemption® Resources and Thinktank => Strategies and Combos => Topic started by: Captain Falcon on August 12, 2009, 11:56:07 AM
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Activate 3 nails and put lampstand in a temple. attack with cherubim banded to ET and play Spiritual warfare. Just make sure you destruction their DD before you do it. :angel: :police: I haven't seen it been done before :P, but if youve done it, tell me
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I recurred this combo without limit in my regionals deck.
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Leviathan/The Serpent. ha
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Also much better when you make a Saint of Virtue deck... ;) He can hold it!!!
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Also much better when you make a Saint of Virtue deck... ;) He can hold it!!!
If you make him green or silver somehow (Golden Shield?)
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Leviathan/The Serpent. ha
I have not seen a single player use those both in the same deck since before Priests.
Kirk
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Leviathan/The Serpent. ha
Those used to be staples for a Crimson Defense!
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Leviathan/The Serpent. ha
Those used to be staples for a Crimson Defense!
I remember that ;D good times...
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There's this specific Priest's gold set-aside card that would do you well. ;)
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Leviathan/The Serpent. ha
I have not seen a single player use those both in the same deck since before Priests.
Kirk
Haha, yeah I know. I was basically joking.
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Yes, this works. Until they play don on your three nails. But yes, it's a great combo and I've used this many times. Same with witness to creation, but that takes too long. ::)
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I think he specified the use of Lampstands to avoid DoN.
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Also much better when you make a Saint of Virtue deck... ;) He can hold it!!!
If you make him green or silver somehow (Golden Shield?)
Training in Righteousness
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Also much better when you make a Saint of Virtue deck... ;) He can hold it!!!
If you make him green or silver somehow (Golden Shield?)
Training in Righteousness
Bah, that takes too long :D
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I really like this idea; here is a deck I built around the idea. Suggestions? It is rough, but fun sounding.
http://www.cactusgamedesign.com/message_boards/index.php?topic=17345.0 (http://www.cactusgamedesign.com/message_boards/index.php?topic=17345.0)
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This is an awesome combo! I first saw RDT using this about two and a half years ago. The only characters able to block it are the previously mentioned Leviathan and Serpent. It can also be blocked by Doubt and Madness. None of those are commonly played though. Apart from that it takes a Dominant to stop the rescue.
P.S. - I guess there's always Masquerading and some other Angel Wars card that I've never seen played. Now we have Large Tree to stop this combo too.
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This is an awesome combo! I first saw RDT using this about two and a half years ago. The only characters able to block it are the previously mentioned Leviathan and Serpent. It can also be blocked by Doubt and Madness. None of those are commonly played though. Apart from that it takes a Dominant to stop the rescue.
P.S. - I guess there's always Masquerading and some other Angel Wars card that I've never seen played. Now we have Large Tree to stop this combo too.
I forgot about Doubt and Madness, good catch! I've been away from Redemption for too long :P
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I can't take credit. RDT pointed those out to me when he smacked me around with the combo. :P
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You can also add Jacob and play RTC, if they only have one brigade.
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Leviathan/The Serpent. ha
I have not seen a single player use those both in the same deck since before Priests.
That's really weird, because I've made orange/crimson decks specifically designed to get around anti-demon offenses/support cards, so there was lots of banding, Doubt, Seven Sons, and these two cards as an essential part of making that deck work. How do you NOT take advantage of two strong non-demon cards in the same brigade, and in a brigade that blends so well with orange?
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i've done it... whats even better is using cherubim banded to saint of virtue ::)
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i've done it... whats even better is using cherubim banded to saint of virtue ::)
I must be having a dense moment because I don't get it. :scratch:
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look at the reference on spiritual warfare. look at the ability on saint.
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look at the reference on spiritual warfare. look at the ability on saint.
How does that help when Saint is purple and Spiritual Warfare is green/silver?
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look at the reference on spiritual warfare. look at the ability on saint.
How does that help when Saint is purple and Spiritual Warfare is green/silver?
You're correct, it wouldn't stick to Saint unless he was converted to green or silver.
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why wouldn't it stick?
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it would totally stick. cherubim would use it ::)
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I can understand not being able to play it on SoV because he does not color match, but once it is there I believe it would stick because his SA doesn't specify a brigade just it's verse. So I should be able to give it to him a-la Coat of Many Colors and it should stick.
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It only sticks if he's the same brigade.
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Because it tries to activate on Saint, sees a color mismatch and fizzles, believe me this is the way it was ruled against me three years ago when I tried it. Even having cheribum in battle with him doesn't help because enhancements always activate on specific characters.
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Where does it say that? Cards like Saint of Virtue and Goliath and all "pseudo" warrior class cards have no definition in the REG, since the card is silent on its brigade color what is the source of the ruling?
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Can you re-phrase that sentence I'm confused by what your question is.
The bottom line is that enhancements must always be activated on a character of matching brigade, Spiritual Warfare on Saint (Purple) does not follow that rule.
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and Saint's ability does not have the critical "regardless of brigade" function.
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The bottom line is that enhancements must always be activated on a character of matching brigade, Spiritual Warfare on Saint (Purple) does not follow that rule.
That doesn't make sense to me, since the SoV is already overriding the game rules but I will not argue the consensus. Schaef what you said makes sense I guess, I just assumed that if no brigade was specified in a "sticking" ability(since I have run into so few) that it defaulted to whatever brigade you wanted as long as you met the "sticking" abilities requirement. I get it now.
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No, because other cards that are retained by the user also have to color-match. For example, if I have Saph and Ishbibenob banded into battle, I can play a gray weapon, and the game rules say a character can hold it, but Ishy doesn't color match.
Another example, The Strong Force says you can play an Enhancement with a capture ability, but it still has to color match a character in battle, it can't be anything just because I have a card saying I can play this card "out of turn".
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I understand what your saying Schaef. I liked my way better though :p , At least now I can rule it correctly at my tournaments ;)
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aw that stinks.
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aw that stinks.
Haha, no, thats GOOD. Can you imagine? That would be a requirement for every deck... who wants more pre-block ignore, especially at that magnitude?
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If it were that easy, I wouldnt use anything else. But, I have tried it, and six turns of set aside is just a bit too much to get it to work. Plus, all the anti ignore stuff, and the ease of killing Crown of Thorns makes this kinda weak now.
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If it were that easy, I wouldnt use anything else. But, I have tried it, and six turns of set aside is just a bit too much to get it to work. Plus, all the anti ignore stuff, and the ease of killing Crown of Thorns makes this kinda weak now.
Try gold shield :)
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i've actually used that... cuz it was in my gray deck n eways.
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Gold shield requires that I block. So if by chance I run into Heroless than I'm toast. :D
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A Green/Gray deck running Prophets and Self-Capture can splash Saint in very easily.
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who even plays heroless ::) i aoled saul then they healed him with healing of naaman. then i martyred him lol. And, i killed their Chariot haha.
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who even plays heroless ::) i aoled saul then they healed him with healing of naaman. then i martyred him lol. And, i killed their Chariot haha.
Whoever that was must have been a noob at heroless. :laugh:
You never put S/P down without healing enhs at the ready.
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Yeah and Chariot? O_o chariot ain't heroless.