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Title: Meal in Emmaus
Post by: Ironisaac on March 07, 2018, 11:58:12 AM
Not an amazing combo, but it's kinda fun. It's not going to win many battles, but it's a good back up plan if you are using green and your rescue attempt goes south. It gives you the flexibility to not have YWR up all the time.

So, you walk in with a green hero. Your opponent plays something that killing your guy in battle. you can play meal in emmaus to interrupt the battle and activate an new artifact. The artifact you activate could be Burning Censer if you just want to negate something, or YWR/Boaz's sandal if you would rather have someone else in battle. Again, it's more of a backup plan more than anything, but it is a fun combo that makes use of an older card :) probably something good for the reserve if you are running those artifacts already. 
Title: Re: Meal in Emmaus
Post by: The Guardian on March 07, 2018, 12:07:09 PM
My favorite play was always Meal in Emmaus to Burial Shroud... ::)
Title: Re: Meal in Emmaus
Post by: Kevinthedude on March 07, 2018, 12:19:42 PM
My favorite play was always Meal in Emmaus to Burial Shroud... ::)

I assume if you Meal to Shroud during your rescue attempt it does not kick you out since the rescue attempt was already started and thus you only get the beneficial side as your opponent can't attack you and you can just deactivate it on your next turn?
Title: Re: Meal in Emmaus
Post by: The Guardian on March 07, 2018, 12:24:03 PM
  8)
Title: Re: Meal in Emmaus
Post by: EmJayBee83 on March 07, 2018, 01:49:46 PM
Still hoping for the rule change such that the default artifact behavior is to trigger immediately upon activation.  Then we could get rid of the errata on Holy Grail.

Why am I posting in this thread?

Meal in Emmaus to activate a non-errata'ed Holy Grail would be schweet.

"To dream the impossible dreeeeeeeeeeeeeammmmmmmmm..."
Title: Re: Meal in Emmaus
Post by: ChristianSoldier on March 07, 2018, 02:09:24 PM
Still hoping for the rule change such that the default artifact behavior is to trigger immediately upon activation.  Then we could get rid of the errata on Holy Grail.

I'd fully support this.
Title: Re: Meal in Emmaus
Post by: Kevinthedude on March 07, 2018, 02:38:04 PM
Still hoping for the rule change such that the default artifact behavior is to trigger immediately upon activation.

Unless I misunderstand you, that already is the way artifacts work.
Title: Re: Meal in Emmaus
Post by: Crashfach2002 on March 07, 2018, 02:41:16 PM
Still hoping for the rule change such that the default artifact behavior is to trigger immediately upon activation.

Unless I misunderstand you, that already is the way artifacts work.

Artifacts like Unholy Writ, I Am Healing, etc. don't.  I'm sure what EJB is referring to is the constant confusion on the "May be used twice" cards as some are used when activated while others aren't.  I would be down with something like this, but might cause an unnecessary errata or make a few useless.
Title: Re: Meal in Emmaus
Post by: Kevinthedude on March 07, 2018, 02:46:24 PM
Still hoping for the rule change such that the default artifact behavior is to trigger immediately upon activation.

Unless I misunderstand you, that already is the way artifacts work.

Artifacts like Unholy Writ, I Am Healing, etc. don't.  I'm sure what EJB is referring to is the constant confusion on the "May be used twice" cards as some are used when activated while others aren't.  I would be down with something like this, but might cause an unnecessary errata or make a few useless.

Unholy Writ I believe is an outlier. Unless I'm mistaken, I Am Healing happens on activation and newer cards with instant abilities that don't specify when they occur (Censer and Image) happen immediately upon activation.
Title: Re: Meal in Emmaus
Post by: Crashfach2002 on March 07, 2018, 02:50:19 PM
Still hoping for the rule change such that the default artifact behavior is to trigger immediately upon activation.

Unless I misunderstand you, that already is the way artifacts work.

Artifacts like Unholy Writ, I Am Healing, etc. don't.  I'm sure what EJB is referring to is the constant confusion on the "May be used twice" cards as some are used when activated while others aren't.  I would be down with something like this, but might cause an unnecessary errata or make a few useless.

Unholy Writ I believe is an outlier. Unless I'm mistaken, I Am Healing happens on activation and newer cards with instant abilities that don't specify when they occur (Censer and Image) happen immediately upon activation.

If it happens on activation, it is a terrible healing card, as (I would assume) most people want to use this in case their hero(es) are discarded during battle.
Title: Re: Meal in Emmaus
Post by: Kevinthedude on March 07, 2018, 02:54:55 PM
Still hoping for the rule change such that the default artifact behavior is to trigger immediately upon activation.

Unless I misunderstand you, that already is the way artifacts work.

Artifacts like Unholy Writ, I Am Healing, etc. don't.  I'm sure what EJB is referring to is the constant confusion on the "May be used twice" cards as some are used when activated while others aren't.  I would be down with something like this, but might cause an unnecessary errata or make a few useless.

Unholy Writ I believe is an outlier. Unless I'm mistaken, I Am Healing happens on activation and newer cards with instant abilities that don't specify when they occur (Censer and Image) happen immediately upon activation.

If it happens on activation, it is a terrible healing card, as (I would assume) most people want to use this in case their hero(es) are discarded during battle.

I think when it was printed it was intended to be able to be used whenever but when artifacts were standardized to be upon activation unless specified it ended up nerfed as a side effect.
Title: Re: Meal in Emmaus
Post by: The Guardian on March 07, 2018, 03:03:10 PM
If you want to be able to heal Heroes following battle, you should hold it in your hand.  :P

Title: Re: Meal in Emmaus
Post by: EmJayBee83 on March 07, 2018, 04:47:46 PM
I know the reason that the Holy Grail errata was originally needed was because back in the day you could activate HG and then use its SA at any time during your turn. The idea was giving folks another AotL-ish battle winner was OP and, hence, not a great idea.

If that has changed, then let's remove the errata from Holy Grail.  Having a two-card combo that stops one EC doesn't strike me as OP--especially when one of the two cards is Meal at Emmaus.
Title: Re: Meal in Emmaus
Post by: TheHobbit13 on March 07, 2018, 05:04:48 PM
I don't think anything has changed, it's just that in Justin's example burial shroud is a restrict which does not work retroactively.
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