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Redemption® Collectible Trading Card Game HQ => Redemption® Resources and Thinktank => Strategies and Combos => Topic started by: LukeChips on June 11, 2014, 01:27:07 PM
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Is it any use?
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No.
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I don't believe the reprint will see much play, due to the fact that it's a dominant, and not a particularly powerful one. Without the dominant cap, it would likely be a staple in Solomon's Temple decks, but as it stands, I can't see it being used in top decks.
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I don't believe the reprint will see much play, due to the fact that it's a dominant, and not a particularly powerful one. Without the dominant cap, it would likely be a staple in Solomon's Temple decks, but as it stands, I can't see it being used in top decks.
I could see it getting play in type II where the dominant cap is less of an issue.
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Ouch, people. I assumed he meant the old one, since the new one hasn't even been released yet.
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I meant both, because they do about the same thing.
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They most definitely do not do the same thing. The new glory of the Lord searches out the fort instead of only protecting it.
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I stand corrected. ;)
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The new one also protects Temple Artifacts, which is very different (and in most ways much better).
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Also the new one doesn't discard itself if Asherah Pole is activated in Solomon's Temple.
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Also the new one doesn't discard itself if Asherah Pole is activated in Solomon's Temple.
Which, hilarious enough, can never happen with the cards currently printed ;) So since there is now this version, it'll never happen.
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In a vacuum, the updated version of Glory of the Lord is head and shoulders above the old version. The issue is that, in practice, the added abilities aren't actually that good. In T1, most people running any kind of temple are running Lampstand, which already protects against the most common artifact killer (Destruction of Nehushtan). It's simply not worth taking up the dominant slot in these decks on the off-chance it will play against non-dominant artifact killers. Very few people are likely to run Solomon's Temple without Lampstand, and I doubt that such decks are going to be particularly well built (although it's possible). There's also the situation of the search potentially being blocked against Nazareth. All in all, even if Solomon's Temple decks were top tier, I can't see many people taking advantage of the new Glory of the Lord, as it doesn't present overly good abilities in actual play.
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In a vacuum, the updated version of Glory of the Lord is head and shoulders above the old version. The issue is that, in practice, the added abilities aren't actually that good. In T1, most people running any kind of temple are running Lampstand, which already protects against the most common artifact killer (Destruction of Nehushtan). It's simply not worth taking up the dominant slot in these decks on the off-chance it will play against non-dominant artifact killers. Very few people are likely to run Solomon's Temple without Lampstand, and I doubt that such decks are going to be particularly well built (although it's possible). There's also the situation of the search potentially being blocked against Nazareth. All in all, even if Solomon's Temple decks were top tier, I can't see many people taking advantage of the new Glory of the Lord, as it doesn't present overly good abilities in actual play.
Right. Unless you have a big, fat deck with tons of space. Even then, it's still kinda dumb.
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This version of Glory of the Lord does not get discarded if if Asherah Pole gets placed in your Temple or Tabernacle. So, if a card was ever created that allowed someone to place Asherah Pole in your Temple or Tabernacle, and you were playing a temple artifact in that temple or tabernacle that you really wanted protected, the new version of GotL is way awesomer.
Whoo-hoo!
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I didn't even know there were good Solomon's temple decks!
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Lampstand that cant be touched? sign me up.
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Has one of those decks ever won a nats?
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One of what decks?
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Has one of those decks ever won a nats?
No, because new Solomon's Temple decks haven't ever been around for a nats yet.
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Even if it was, winning Nats isn't really the only indicator of whether a deck is good or not. Neither Disciples or the Deck have ever won, but nobody is going to argue that either of those isn't good. I don't believe that Solomon's Temple is top tier, however, there is a lot of potential, and in the meantime, it's certainly playable.
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Huh, I thought that disciples won at some nats.
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2011 was the first year that Disciples were available at Nats, and Matt Townsend won with TGT/Centurions that year. In 2012 Martin Miller won with a FBTNB offense, and last year Josiah won with Genesis hand control.
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Ok, I just don't keep track of that stuff plus I'm a noobe. :P
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...and Matt Townsend won with TGT/Centurions that year.
The deck that had the most FTM's was actually the one that won that year.
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...and Matt Townsend won with TGT/Centurions that year.
The deck that had the most FTM's was actually the one that won that year.
While there's some truth to that statement, Centurians were a great call for the metagame.
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Matt may not have won that year without the FTMs, but he's consistently placed well in the subsequent two years, and has even won a second category (Booster, but still). Like Westy mentioned, his deck was excellent against the meta, and it was really the only one of it's kind being played at top tables. FTMs aside, he really did deserve to win.