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Redemption® Collectible Trading Card Game HQ => Redemption® Resources and Thinktank => Strategies and Combos => Topic started by: jesse on February 16, 2017, 04:22:20 AM
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1) Say my one Hero in battle is being specifically (and only) targeted for removal (say, discard) during a rescue attempt, triggering Special Initiative, by an ability that isn't CBI/CBN (like Tenants Kill the Son). Can I play Battle Cry to add a Hero to battle, even if that Hero isn't someone like Ahimelek the Hittite who will remove a blocking EC, in order to still have a Hero in battle and continue fighting after my first one is discarded?
2) What if I used Battle Cry to band in a CTB Hero like Asahel - would all of the blocking ECs be removed and replaced by the EC I chose to block, even in the midst of the special initiative?
Thanks!
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1. Yes. Special initiative grants you the ability to interrupt or negate the ability removing you - it doesn't require that the removing card remain interrupted or negated. With SI, you can even play Reach of Desperation to draw 3 and die.
2. Yes.
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Awesome - thank you!
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1. Yes. Special initiative grants you the ability to interrupt or negate the ability removing you - it doesn't require that the removing card remain interrupted or negated. With SI, you can even play Reach of Desperation to draw 3 and die.
2. Yes.
Wait... SI works now if only 1 of multiple heroes is being removed?
That and I'm assuming your meaning if you just go "Draw 3" and not play an Enhancement.
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No, in jesse's scenario SI occurs when the lone hero is being removed from battle with single target removal. Battle Cry can interrupt that removal and add a character to battle. Once it resolves, the interrupted ability will complete and remove the original hero, but now there's another hero and the battle continues with normal initiative rules.
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I know all that, but from what I could tell from the scenario it seemed like he was saying that he had multiple heroes in battle and 1 was being discarded.
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but from what I could tell from the scenario it seemed like he was saying that he had multiple heroes in battle and 1 was being discarded.
1) Say my one Hero in battle is being specifically (and only) targeted for removal
Nope.
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It sounded that way to me as well. I think he went back and edit it if you look it was edited today.
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I mean I don't want to get into a semantics debate, because it's beside the point, but the edit was at 3:24am which was before anyone actually replied to the thread.
Sufficed to say, the scenario involved a single hero getting removed which does, as jmhartz confirmed, grant special initiative. You can, in that situation, use Battle Cry to band someone in to continue the battle.