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Title: AOCP question
Post by: crazycars on October 12, 2010, 09:08:16 AM
Is AOCP a mattew refference card?
Title: Re: AOCP question
Post by: Korunks on October 12, 2010, 09:49:59 AM
No, the matthew reference only exists in the REG and is not physically on the card.
Title: Re: AOCP question
Post by: crazycars on October 12, 2010, 05:39:51 PM
I know that  but if I use Matthew to make a RA and put AOCP on the Bottemof my deck.
Please responed
Title: Re: AOCP question
Post by: Cpt.Jaeger on October 12, 2010, 05:42:57 PM
No, the matthew reference only exists in the REG and is not physically on the card.

wait, so then AOCP is not considered NT either?
Title: Re: AOCP question
Post by: browarod on October 12, 2010, 05:51:42 PM
AoCP is referenceless, so I would assume it's also Testamentless.

It has been ruled that players should disregard any information in the REG entry for AoCP that is not also printed on the card.

AoCP cannot be recurred with Matthew (Di).
Title: Re: AOCP question
Post by: Smokey on October 12, 2010, 05:57:59 PM
AoCP is referenceless, so I would assume it's also Testamentless.

Testaments are determined by the "date" of the card, all cards have Testaments.
Title: Re: AOCP question
Post by: browarod on October 12, 2010, 06:00:16 PM
AoCP is referenceless, so I would assume it's also Testamentless.

Testaments are determined by the "date" of the card, all cards have Testaments.
Without a reference, the date cannot be ascertained. Also, it has no OT/NT identifier like other extra-Biblical cards. Therefore it seems to be Testamentless.
Title: Re: AOCP question
Post by: Smokey on October 12, 2010, 06:29:05 PM
AoCP is referenceless, so I would assume it's also Testamentless.

Testaments are determined by the "date" of the card, all cards have Testaments.
Without a reference, the date cannot be ascertained. Also, it has no OT/NT identifier like other extra-Biblical cards. Therefore it seems to be Testamentless.

Antiochus has no reference, but he is OT, Vitellus has no reference, but he is NT.
Title: Re: AOCP question
Post by: hi123 on October 12, 2010, 06:33:53 PM
I know that  but if I use Matthew to make a RA and put AOCP on the Bottemof my deck.
Please responed
No. I made a combo about that, and, it wouldnt work because it doesent have a reference.  ;)
Title: Re: AOCP question
Post by: browarod on October 12, 2010, 06:33:58 PM
Antiochus has no reference, but he is OT, Vitellus has no reference, but he is NT.
Also, it has no OT/NT identifier like other extra-Biblical cards.
Title: Re: AOCP question
Post by: Smokey on October 12, 2010, 06:35:02 PM
Antiochus has no reference, but he is OT, Vitellus has no reference, but he is NT.
Also, it has no OT/NT identifier like other extra-Biblical cards.

REG is a reliable source, btw my AoCp has a Matthew reference (sarcasm, disregard this OP).
Title: Re: AOCP question
Post by: DDiceRC on October 12, 2010, 06:47:46 PM
AoCP does not have a reference printed on it. (Newer promos at least have a reference, if not a full verse.) I know in the past for a card to be considered having a specific reference it had to actually be printed on the card, not understood from an outside source (like the REG), and I don't think this has ever been revoked.

This is different than the standard for testament. I can't find the ruling, but I recall that NT and OT for cards that do not have Biblical references is determined by whether or not the character lived during/after the life of Jesus or before. This applies even to characters well past the time of Christ, such as St. Patrick and custom heroes from Nats.
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