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Title: Super Bowl Denver vs Seattle
Post by: Sadness on January 20, 2014, 06:28:20 PM
Who are you rooting for?
Title: Re: Super Bowl Denver vs Seattle
Post by: Red Wing on January 20, 2014, 06:35:09 PM
I don't really care who wins from a fan standpoint, but I've got Seattle winning.
Title: Re: Super Bowl Denver vs Seattle
Post by: Alex_Olijar on January 20, 2014, 11:28:36 PM
I'm just rooting for a super Bowl
Title: Re: Super Bowl Denver vs Seattle
Post by: TheJaylor on January 20, 2014, 11:31:34 PM
I'm rooting for the commercials. :P
Title: Re: Super Bowl Denver vs Seattle
Post by: New Raven BR on January 21, 2014, 08:24:36 AM
I'm rooting for the commercials. :P
best comment EVER!! but as for me, SEA vs DEN is EXACTLY what I predicted :) this should be an interesting superbowl this year but im pulling for the broncos!!
Title: Re: Super Bowl Denver vs Seattle
Post by: AJ on January 21, 2014, 04:36:57 PM
Go Sherman Skittle man Lynch. 8)
Title: Re: Super Bowl Denver vs Seattle
Post by: Nameless on January 21, 2014, 06:04:56 PM
The best offense vs. the best defense, this should be interesting.
Title: Re: Super Bowl Denver vs Seattle
Post by: CJSports on January 21, 2014, 10:05:34 PM
I'm going for the Broncos simply because someone has a tat of Seattle Seahawks SuperBowl XLVII Champions already.
Title: Re: Super Bowl Denver vs Seattle
Post by: New Raven BR on January 22, 2014, 07:41:54 AM
I'm going for the Broncos simply because someone has a tat of Seattle Seahawks SuperBowl XLVII Champions already.
then somebody has obviously wasted their 80 bucks on that tat LOL can't imagine how much he would have to pay to have that tattoo removed
Title: Re: Super Bowl Denver vs Seattle
Post by: EmJayBee83 on January 22, 2014, 07:59:04 AM
I'm going for the Broncos simply because someone has a tat of Seattle Seahawks SuperBowl XLVII Champions already.
then somebody has obviously wasted their 80 bucks on that tat LOL can't imagine how much he would have to pay to have that tattoo removed
Probably easier to just get "Runner Up" tattooed after it.
Title: Re: Super Bowl Denver vs Seattle
Post by: New Raven BR on January 22, 2014, 08:02:46 AM
I'm going for the Broncos simply because someone has a tat of Seattle Seahawks SuperBowl XLVII Champions already.
then somebody has obviously wasted their 80 bucks on that tat LOL can't imagine how much he would have to pay to have that tattoo removed
Probably easier to just get "Runner Up" tattooed after it.
for sure
Title: Re: Super Bowl Denver vs Seattle
Post by: Warrior_Monk on January 22, 2014, 01:44:04 PM
I'm going for the Broncos simply because someone has a tat of Seattle Seahawks SuperBowl XLVII Champions already.
Obviously that means the Seahawks are going to win, and that guy was rooting for the Broncos. Loser always gets a tat.
Title: Re: Super Bowl Denver vs Seattle
Post by: lp670sv on January 22, 2014, 02:07:45 PM
He could just get the "Champions" removed and say it was to celebrate them making it to the super bowl.
Title: Re: Super Bowl Denver vs Seattle
Post by: Chris on January 22, 2014, 04:53:45 PM
He could just get the "Champions" removed and say it was to celebrate them making it to the super bowl.

He's from Seattle, so he could just say it was supposed to be "ironic".

I'm rooting for the Broncos. I'm a sucker for all-star quarterbacks, so I'd like to see Peyton win, especially since it will help remove the stigma that he's merely a regular season quarterback. Realistically though, I think the Seahawks are probably going to win. The Broncos need Peyton to pull this out, and I think a lot of his lackluster playoff showings can be attributed to cold weather, and NYC is going to be very, very cold. One thing that's fascinating is that oddsmakers are basically treating this game as a complete tossup; there's really no favorite.
Title: Re: Super Bowl Denver vs Seattle
Post by: lp670sv on February 02, 2014, 09:56:08 PM
Hi.
Title: Re: Super Bowl Denver vs Seattle
Post by: Redoubter on February 02, 2014, 10:01:30 PM
Hi.

Not sure much more can be said about this game.  That was...well, that was over after the first snap, really.

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Title: Re: Super Bowl Denver vs Seattle
Post by: TheHobbit13 on February 02, 2014, 10:27:06 PM
Well Manning folded in the superbowl...again... and Richard Sherman can't walk.  Wow, a great Superbowl after all.  8)

The word on the "street" is Sherman gave Manning the choke sign, tripped, and broke himself. Not sure, but that is how I will remember it. 
Title: Re: Super Bowl Denver vs Seattle
Post by: lp670sv on February 02, 2014, 10:38:07 PM
Well Manning folded in the superbowl...again... and Richard Sherman can't walk.  Wow, a great Superbowl after all.  8)

The word on the "street" is Sherman gave Manning the choke sign, tripped, and broke himself. Not sure, but that is how I will remember it. 

Thats not what happened at all and it's pretty shameful that you're celebrating his injury.


Hi.

Not sure much more can be said about this game.  That was...well, that was over after the first snap, really.

EDIT: This one is for lp:
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And I just found my new avatar, thank you sir.
Title: Re: Super Bowl Denver vs Seattle
Post by: Alex_Olijar on February 02, 2014, 10:43:30 PM
So Pittsburgh won right?
Title: Re: Super Bowl Denver vs Seattle
Post by: TheJaylor on February 02, 2014, 11:34:08 PM
Well Manning folded in the superbowl...again... and Richard Sherman can't walk.  Wow, a great Superbowl after all.  8)

The word on the "street" is Sherman gave Manning the choke sign, tripped, and broke himself. Not sure, but that is how I will remember it. 

Thats not what happened at all and it's pretty shameful that you're celebrating his injury.
Well, Sherman's recent actions haven't exactly been shameless either.

So Pittsburgh won right?
Sure...
Title: Re: Super Bowl Denver vs Seattle
Post by: Alex_Olijar on February 02, 2014, 11:35:47 PM
I heard we won all the Super Bowls
Title: Re: Super Bowl Denver vs Seattle
Post by: lp670sv on February 02, 2014, 11:47:45 PM
Well, Sherman's recent actions haven't exactly been shameless either.

Talking smack about someone after they disrespected you is worthy of celebrating injury? Okay.
Title: Re: Super Bowl Denver vs Seattle
Post by: TheJaylor on February 03, 2014, 12:00:11 AM
Well, Sherman's recent actions haven't exactly been shameless either.

Talking smack about someone after they disrespected you is worthy of celebrating injury? Okay.
I didn't say that. I'm just giving an explanation as to why TheHobbit may have phrased it as he did.

I'm sure TheHobbit would willingly apologize if his joke was seemingly inappropriate or offensive.
Title: Re: Super Bowl Denver vs Seattle
Post by: jbeers285 on February 03, 2014, 01:08:21 AM
Well, Sherman's recent actions haven't exactly been shameless either.

Talking smack about someone after they disrespected you is worthy of celebrating injury? Okay.
I didn't say that. I'm just giving an explanation as to why TheHobbit may have phrased it as he did.

I'm sure TheHobbit would willingly apologize if his joke was seemingly inappropriate or offensive.


I've havnt said much about Sherman till now but

1. He graduated Cum Laude from Stanford
2. His rant after the NFC will make him more money on endorsements then a lot of us will make in our lives.
3. He thrust himself into the lime light (good or negative attention doesn't matter) in a league where QB's (Manning, Brady) hog the spot light. He bought himself air time and he will make tons of money on a new contract. (Granted his play does that but look at all the talented mouths from the past and how much money they commanded.)
4. He took all the attention and pressure off of a young team and he put it all on his back.  He gave Wilson an opportunity to focus and to just play a game instead of having to be the face of a franchise and play the game for the last 2 weeks.
5. Manning got asked more about him(Sherman) than anything else this week.

I say all of this not to support what he did from a Christian worldview. Rather I say from the worlds view he made a wise business decision for himself and he employeed a powerful mental tactic to help his team and hurt his opponent.
Title: Re: Super Bowl Denver vs Seattle
Post by: EmJayBee83 on February 03, 2014, 08:04:31 AM
I've havnt said much about Sherman till now but

[5 things deleted...]
6. He drew all the attention after the 49er/Sea Hawk NFC championship game. If it weren't for Sherman's post-game championship rant, imagine what people would have been saying about Colin Kaepernick and choking. Taking the heat on himself was a brilliant way to shield his fellow players from criticism. That kind of self-sacrifice would make him a heckuva guy.

I think this is as likely* an explanation for Sherman's actions as the possibility that he was playing mental jujitsu to help his team in the Super Bowl.


*Meaning not likely at all, imo.
Title: Re: Super Bowl Denver vs Seattle
Post by: jbeers285 on February 03, 2014, 09:42:36 AM
I've havnt said much about Sherman till now but

[5 things deleted...]
6. He drew all the attention after the 49er/Sea Hawk NFC championship game. If it weren't for Sherman's post-game championship rant, imagine what people would have been saying about Colin Kaepernick and choking. Taking the heat on himself was a brilliant way to shield his fellow players from criticism. That kind of self-sacrifice would make him a heckuva guy.

I think this is as likely* an explanation for Sherman's actions as the possibility that he was playing mental jujitsu to help his team in the Super Bowl.


*Meaning not likely at all, imo.
Reread number 1
Title: Re: Super Bowl Denver vs Seattle
Post by: EmJayBee83 on February 03, 2014, 01:44:35 PM
I've havnt said much about Sherman till now but

[5 things deleted...]
6. He drew all the attention after the 49er/Sea Hawk NFC championship game. If it weren't for Sherman's post-game championship rant, imagine what people would have been saying about Colin Kaepernick and choking. Taking the heat on himself was a brilliant way to shield his fellow players from criticism. That kind of self-sacrifice would make him a heckuva guy.

I think this is as likely* an explanation for Sherman's actions as the possibility that he was playing mental jujitsu to help his team in the Super Bowl.


*Meaning not likely at all, imo.
Reread number 1
Just to clarify... Are you claiming that graduating from Stanford means Sherman *couldn't* have acted the way he did because he didn't want Colin Kaepernick to go through the media buzzsaw? Or are you implying a Stanford grad can't be "heckuva a guy?"
Title: Re: Super Bowl Denver vs Seattle
Post by: jbeers285 on February 03, 2014, 01:52:45 PM
I've havnt said much about Sherman till now but

[5 things deleted...]
6. He drew all the attention after the 49er/Sea Hawk NFC championship game. If it weren't for Sherman's post-game championship rant, imagine what people would have been saying about Colin Kaepernick and choking. Taking the heat on himself was a brilliant way to shield his fellow players from criticism. That kind of self-sacrifice would make him a heckuva guy.

I think this is as likely* an explanation for Sherman's actions as the possibility that he was playing mental jujitsu to help his team in the Super Bowl.


*Meaning not likely at all, imo.
Reread number 1
Just to clarify... Are you claiming that graduating from Stanford means Sherman *couldn't* have acted the way he did because he didn't want Colin Kaepernick to go through the media buzzsaw? Or are you implying a Stanford grad can't be "heckuva a guy?"

I'm saying it supports my argument while your idea of setting up a strawman to tear down is not a good debate tactic and it doesn't actually do anything to refute, add to or detract from anything I previously stated.
Title: Re: Super Bowl Denver vs Seattle
Post by: Lamborghini_diablo on February 03, 2014, 02:05:18 PM
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Title: Re: Super Bowl Denver vs Seattle
Post by: EmJayBee83 on February 03, 2014, 02:47:49 PM
I'm saying it supports my argument while your idea of setting up a strawman to tear down is not a good debate tactic and it doesn't actually do anything to refute, add to or detract from anything I previously stated.
Hahahahahaha... It does nothing to refute what you said, because there is absolutely nothing to refute. You made a few claims (specifically the ones about him trying to help his team that I referred to by the mental jujitsu remark) that you have absolutely zero evidence for.

If you are going to attempt to justify Sherman's actions by providing unsupported motivations, you should add my #6 as to your list. I have exactly as much support for my claim as you have for your #4 and #5 (none). Moreover, my #6 makes him look like a totally righteous dude helping out others and all.
Title: Re: Super Bowl Denver vs Seattle
Post by: TheMarti on February 03, 2014, 02:57:40 PM
Gentlemen, please be kind to one another.  :)
Title: Re: Super Bowl Denver vs Seattle
Post by: jbeers285 on February 03, 2014, 03:59:21 PM
I'm saying it supports my argument while your idea of setting up a strawman to tear down is not a good debate tactic and it doesn't actually do anything to refute, add to or detract from anything I previously stated.
Hahahahahaha... It does nothing to refute what you said, because there is absolutely nothing to refute. You made a few claims (specifically the ones about him trying to help his team that I referred to by the mental jujitsu remark) that you have absolutely zero evidence for.

If you are going to attempt to justify Sherman's actions by providing unsupported motivations, you should add my #6 as to your list. I have exactly as much support for my claim as you have for your #4 and #5 (none). Moreover, my #6 makes him look like a totally righteous dude helping out others and all.

Your right I went back and looked at it and the only thin the media talked about the last 2 weeks is how young Seahawks QB Wilson will handle the pressure they didn't even touch the Sherman rant.  I also failed to find anyone asking Manning about Sherman. I was way off.  :-p lol

To Emjaybee, Marti; hopefully you aren't feeling like I'm tryin to personally attack anyone or be rude. My intention is to represent a side of the argument that has been neglected by casual fans.  People (especially Christians) evaluated Sherman based on 20 seconds not on his life time of work and effort. They havnt researched the situation and they havnt listened to the last 2 weeks of shermans interviews. I also believe from the worlds view his actions have only benefited him and his team.

I'm not trying to say that his 20 second blurb was intentional in itself.  However Sherman has intentionally sought media attention, been competitively controversial and been confident/arrogant all season as a tactic to make money and take pressure off his team mates.

Here are some things people don't know.

1. The 49ers coach (harbaugh) was Sherman's college coach and he dogged Sherman to nfl coaches the year Sherman was getting drafted and he fell way down the draft boards because of Harbaugh's comments.

2. Sherman and Crabtree where a charity fundraiser in AZ with Kurt Warner together where Crabtree intentionally tried to start a fight with him and Sherman promise Crabtree he would embarrass him on the field not in a fight at a charity event.

3. This preseason Sherman got in a twitter battle with Darelle Revis about who was the best corner. This is part of the game and part of the way non skill position players have to get the recognition they deserve from the NFL, endorsement companies and contract negotiators. 

T.O.
Chad Johnson
Joey Porter
Deion Sanders
Jerry Rice
Joe Namath and so many more guys understood this and have used this tactic in the past.


Side note (explanation, does not equal full fledged support of his actions)
Title: Re: Super Bowl Denver vs Seattle
Post by: AJ on February 03, 2014, 04:08:12 PM
Denver's O line got man handled that game that bobbled snap was terrible.
Title: Re: Super Bowl Denver vs Seattle
Post by: TheHobbit13 on February 03, 2014, 04:47:09 PM
All Richard Sherman needed to do was give the choke sign to Cap, Harbaugh, and be done. I don't have a problem if he did just that. I have a problem with him slapping Crabtree on the butt and calling him out in an interview because he made himself look like a fool. I don't mind Richard Sherman thinking he is the best. I understand motivational thinking, however, when motivational thinking is expressed one can embarrass oneself. I am not going to judge Richard Sherman's reasons for doing what he did but either way he acted in a way that shed him in a negative light. Sherman might have been right in all of the things he said in the interview but that doesn't matter. Being diplomatic would have been better for his career.


FWIW, I am not celebrating Sherman's injury. His injury is simply refreshing. Much like David's victory over Goliath is refreshing. Richard Sherman did not "deserve" to be injured but hopefully now he will conduct himself in healthier ways and be a better role model for young athletes.
Title: Re: Super Bowl Denver vs Seattle
Post by: YourMathTeacher on February 03, 2014, 05:32:18 PM
I make a fool of myself all the time. I wonder if my students would find it "refreshing" if I got injured at work.   :o
Title: Re: Super Bowl Denver vs Seattle
Post by: lp670sv on February 03, 2014, 05:53:53 PM
All Richard Sherman needed to do was give the choke sign to Cap, Harbaugh, and be done. I don't have a problem if he did just that. I have a problem with him slapping Crabtree on the butt and calling him out in an interview because he made himself look like a fool. I don't mind Richard Sherman thinking he is the best. I understand motivational thinking, however, when motivational thinking is expressed one can embarrass oneself. I am not going to judge Richard Sherman's reasons for doing what he did but either way he acted in a way that shed him in a negative light. Sherman might have been right in all of the things he said in the interview but that doesn't matter. Being diplomatic would have been better for his career.


FWIW, I am not celebrating Sherman's injury. His injury is simply refreshing. Much like David's victory over Goliath is refreshing. Richard Sherman did not "deserve" to be injured but hopefully now he will conduct himself in healthier ways and be a better role model for young athletes.
Conduct himself in healthier ways? he plays a sport where 200-300 pound dudes slam in to each other for your entertainment, and you can say you aren't celebrating his injury but by calling it refreshing your taking some form of satisfaction in it. He's has a Master's degree from one of the best colleges in the world, he donates millions to charity, and he's not a role model because someone stuck a microphone in his face while he was fired up? Okay.
Title: Re: Super Bowl Denver vs Seattle
Post by: EmJayBee83 on February 03, 2014, 09:11:30 PM
I'm saying it supports my argument while your idea of setting up a strawman to tear down is not a good debate tactic and it doesn't actually do anything to refute, add to or detract from anything I previously stated.
Hahahahahaha... It does nothing to refute what you said, because there is absolutely nothing to refute. You made a few claims (specifically the ones about him trying to help his team that I referred to by the mental jujitsu remark) that you have absolutely zero evidence for.

If you are going to attempt to justify Sherman's actions by providing unsupported motivations, you should add my #6 as to your list. I have exactly as much support for my claim as you have for your #4 and #5 (none). Moreover, my #6 makes him look like a totally righteous dude helping out others and all.

Your right I went back and looked at it and the only thin the media talked about the last 2 weeks is how young Seahawks QB Wilson will handle the pressure they didn't even touch the Sherman rant.  I also failed to find anyone asking Manning about Sherman. I was way off.  :-p lol
Putting the sarcasm to the side, you still have provided absolutely zero evidence that Richard Sherman's post game rant was meant to help his team. Positive results from his outburst say absolutely nothing about *why* Sherman was jawing after the game.

If folks knew before the NFC championship game that one of the QBs was going to cough up the ball three times in the fourth quarter and cost his team the game, most folks would have bet dollars to doughnuts that "Mr. Choker" would have been the focus of the post-game chatter. Kaepernick didn't have to face that heat because of Sherman's post game interview. Just because that is true does not argue in any way shape or form that Richard Sherman went off on national TV *in order to* be a stand-up dude to an opponent who faced a hard time of it.

Two Notes:

1) I don't really care about or take offense to the use of sarcasm--I just wanted to point out that the response was evidence free.

2) I like Richard Sherman, all-in-all. I actually agree with his assessment that he is the best CB in the game, and his man on the street interviews last year in New Orleans ("too fat and slow?!?") were awesome. That said, I agree with Pete Carroll that Sherman's post game interview was about Richard Sherman and not about the team.
Title: Re: Super Bowl Denver vs Seattle
Post by: Ironica on February 04, 2014, 01:07:09 AM
Though it was close to me, I would say Turbo Tax won the commercial bowl.  Doritos were great but they had to use two commercials to beat Turbo tax.  The downside was that they kept getting interrupted by the Seahawks' practices ;).
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