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Redemption® Collectible Trading Card Game HQ => Official Rules & Errata => Ruling Questions => Topic started by: jtay on March 07, 2009, 02:11:46 PM
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For the purpose of triggering the withdraw lost soul's ability, which of these counts as the hero withdrawing from battle and which ones do not?
1. Choosing a blocker (after hero is presented in battle)
2. Ignoring a hero
3. Causing a side battle between the blocking hero and another hero
Lost Soul (withdraw) - If a Hero withdraws from a rescue attempt against holder, place this card beneath owner's draw pile.
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I'm not an expert on this... but I'd say no to choosing a blocker, no to ignoring a hero(the hero stays in battle, he just can't hurt you), and yes on the side battle. But I know that if you return a hero to hand or territory it counts as retreating.
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No to all three. None of those make a hero withdraw.
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Josh is correct.
The only abilities that count as withdraw are
a). cards that say "withdraw" or "retreat", which return a card to territory
b). cards that return a character from battle to territory
c). cards that return a character from battle to hand, I believe also counts
And all of these apply whether I do it to my own character or you play a card that forces my character to return.
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Josh is correct.
The only abilities that count as withdraw are
a). cards that say "withdraw" or "retreat", which return a card to territory
b). cards that return a character from battle to territory
c). cards that return a character from battle to hand, I believe also counts
And all of these apply whether I do it to my own character or you play a card that forces my character to return.
Okay, so that would mean yes to choosing the blocker and no to causing a side-battle. I'm still unsure of whether ignoring would do the trick; does ignoring a hero technically cause the hero to return to territory? I'm thinking the answer is no, but I can see it going either way.
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No to choose the blocker, and no to ignore. Only "withdraw", "return to territory" and "return to hand"
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So even though choosing the blocker does cause the previously presented hero to return to territory, it doesn't count as a withdrawal?
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It is an exchange, Not a withdrawl.
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I agree with RR. A withdrawal means that someone leaves and noone immediately replaces him. An exchange is when someone leaves, but someone immediately replaces him as part of the same ability. Choose the blocker does the latter.
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I'm still unsure of whether ignoring would do the trick; does ignoring a hero technically cause the hero to return to territory? I'm thinking the answer is no, but I can see it going either way.
No. As said in the other thread about ignores, they arent immediately returned to territory. When a character is ignored, its like they're still in battle, but everything happens without them. They cant hurt anyone, but they arent hurt themselves. They return to battle unharmed after everything is said and done.