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Redemption® Collectible Trading Card Game HQ => Official Rules & Errata => Ruling Questions => Topic started by: YourMathTeacher on March 20, 2011, 07:23:20 PM
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If Legion plays SSS with Covenant of Eden active and Tartaros in set-aside, does Legion go to Tartaros and then back to my territory? Essential Question: I know that stopping the heroes from rescuing a LS is considered a "defeat" for them, but (based on Tartaros' wording) does this count as a "win" for Legion? I would think that since Legion is discarded that it did not "win."
Legion (Di)
Type: Evil Char. • Brigade: Orange • Ability: 3 / 9 • Class: None • Special Ability: Suicidal Swine Stampede can't be negated. May band to Legion. If captured, return to territory instead. If Son of God is played, discard this card. • Play As: Suicidal Swine Stampede cannot be negated. May band to Legion. If captured, return to territory instead. If Son of God is played, discard this card. • Identifiers: Generic NT Male Demon
Suicidal Swine Stampede (Di)
Type: Evil Enh. • Brigade: Orange • Ability: None • Class: None • Special Ability: Remove all Evil Characters in battle from the game to shuffle all Lost Souls in your territory into owners' deck. • Play As: Remove all Evil Characters in battle from the game to return all Lost Souls in your territory into owners' deck.
Covenant of Eden (Pa)
Type: Covenant • Brigade: Silver • Ability: 3 / 4 • Class: None • Special Ability: Use as an enhancement or an Artifact. No character may be removed from the game. Instead discard the character targeted for removal. • Play As: Use as an enhancement or an Artifact. If a character is being removed from the game, discard that character instead.
Tartaros (Ap)
Type: Fortress • Brigade: None • Ability: None • Class: None • Special Ability: All demons that holder captures, discards, or has in Land of Bondage are placed in Tartaros. Release one demon to holder's territory from Tartaros when one of holder's demons wins in battle. • Play As: All demons that holder captures, discards, or has in Land of Bondage are held in Tartaros instead. Return one demon to holder's territory from Tartaros when one of holder's demons wins in battle. Tartaros may hold any number of demons. • Identifiers: Play to set-aside area.
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Wandering Spirit + GoH would work better. As far as I know, you wouldn't be able to release Legion.
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Actually I'm pretty sure since Covenant of Edan is an instead ability you are not fulfilling the requirements of SSS so therefore they are not shuffled.
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CJ is correct - Because the removal was insteaded you didn't pay the cost for SSS.
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I see. Good 'ole "instead."
How about a PG demon using Death of Unrighteous with Tartaros active? I am still curious about "win" versus "defeat."