« previous next »
Pages: [1]   Go Down

Author Topic: Is Pharoh's Baker a Band ability or an exchange ability?  (Read 1770 times)

Offline Praeceps

  • Tournament Host
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • *****
  • Posts: 888
    • LFG
    • East Central Region
Is Pharoh's Baker a Band ability or an exchange ability?
« on: March 18, 2012, 04:18:14 PM »
0
Pharaoh's Baker (FF2)

Type: Evil Char. • Brigade: Gold • Ability: 0 / 3 • Class: None • Special Ability: You may remove this Evil Character from the game to draw X (limit 3) and add your evil Genesis Egyptian to the battle. Cannot be interrupted. • Play As: You may remove this Evil Character from the game to draw X (limit 3) and add to battle your evil Genesis Egyptian. Cannot be interrupted. • Identifiers: OT Male Human, Egypt, X = the number of your Genesis Humans • Verse: Genesis 40:2-3 • Availability: Faith of our Fathers Extended booster packs (None)
Logged
Just one more thing...

Offline Minister Polarius

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 15920
  • Grand Minister of Music and Video Games
    • -
    • East Central Region
    • Macclelland Music
Re: Is Pharoh's Baker a Band ability or an exchange ability?
« Reply #1 on: March 18, 2012, 04:21:06 PM »
0
It's an add to battle ability. Currently, that turns into a banding ability if there is another EC already in battle, but it shouldn't.
Logged
I am not talking about T2 unless I am explicitly talking about T2. Also Mayhem is fine now somehow!

Offline Praeceps

  • Tournament Host
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • *****
  • Posts: 888
    • LFG
    • East Central Region
Re: Is Pharoh's Baker a Band ability or an exchange ability?
« Reply #2 on: March 18, 2012, 04:23:15 PM »
0
Can Hosea capture him if Baker's in territory?
Logged
Just one more thing...

Offline Minister Polarius

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 15920
  • Grand Minister of Music and Video Games
    • -
    • East Central Region
    • Macclelland Music
Re: Is Pharoh's Baker a Band ability or an exchange ability?
« Reply #3 on: March 18, 2012, 04:23:56 PM »
+2
No.
Logged
I am not talking about T2 unless I am explicitly talking about T2. Also Mayhem is fine now somehow!

Offline lp670sv

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1652
    • -
    • Northeast Region
Re: Is Pharoh's Baker a Band ability or an exchange ability?
« Reply #4 on: March 18, 2012, 04:25:25 PM »
0


I have a feeling this is going to turn in to one of those threads.
Logged

Offline Smokey

  • Trade Count: (+2)
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 3216
    • -
    • Midwest Region
Re: Is Pharoh's Baker a Band ability or an exchange ability?
« Reply #5 on: March 18, 2012, 04:29:14 PM »
+2
Logged

Offline Redoubter

  • Trade Count: (+3)
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4910
    • -
    • Northeast Region
Re: Is Pharoh's Baker a Band ability or an exchange ability?
« Reply #6 on: March 18, 2012, 04:32:02 PM »
0
Quote from: Praeceps on March 18, 2012, 04:23:15 PM
Can Hosea capture him if Baker's in territory?

Based on other rulings that add-to-battle abilities that aren't always band abilities cannot be targeted as band, this would be 'no' as stated.

It would be a banding ability if, as pointed out, another EC is still in battle.  If Baker starts the battle, he is removed before the rest of the ability (add to battle) activates.  Therefore, not a band.

If Baker is banded in by another Egyptian EC and then uses his ability, it is a band at that point.

And I agree with the smiley :D
Logged

Offline lp670sv

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1652
    • -
    • Northeast Region
Re: Is Pharoh's Baker a Band ability or an exchange ability?
« Reply #7 on: March 18, 2012, 04:33:57 PM »
0
Logged

Offline SomeKittens

  • Tournament Host
  • Trade Count: (+10)
  • *****
  • Posts: 8102
    • -
    • Northeast Region
Re: Is Pharoh's Baker a Band ability or an exchange ability?
« Reply #8 on: March 18, 2012, 08:24:52 PM »
0
This came up at our tournament too.  So:

He has an ability that can be a band.  Why can't it be targeted as such?
Logged
Mind not the ignorant fool on the other side of the screen!-BubbleBoy
Code: [Select]
postcount.add(1);

Offline Minister Polarius

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 15920
  • Grand Minister of Music and Video Games
    • -
    • East Central Region
    • Macclelland Music
Re: Is Pharoh's Baker a Band ability or an exchange ability?
« Reply #9 on: March 18, 2012, 08:26:08 PM »
+1
Now you see one of the many, many flaws in the current classification.
Logged
I am not talking about T2 unless I am explicitly talking about T2. Also Mayhem is fine now somehow!

Offline lp670sv

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1652
    • -
    • Northeast Region
Re: Is Pharoh's Baker a Band ability or an exchange ability?
« Reply #10 on: March 18, 2012, 08:27:02 PM »
0
Logged

Offline Red Dragon Thorn

  • Covenant Games
  • Global Moderator
  • Trade Count: (+10)
  • *****
  • Posts: 5373
    • -
    • North Central Region
    • Covenant Games
Re: Is Pharoh's Baker a Band ability or an exchange ability?
« Reply #11 on: March 18, 2012, 09:31:42 PM »
+1


Logged
www.covenantgames.com

Offline Minister Polarius

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 15920
  • Grand Minister of Music and Video Games
    • -
    • East Central Region
    • Macclelland Music
Re: Is Pharoh's Baker a Band ability or an exchange ability?
« Reply #12 on: March 18, 2012, 09:32:37 PM »
0
Stop talking about add to battle abilities, the elders are sick of hearing about them.
Logged
I am not talking about T2 unless I am explicitly talking about T2. Also Mayhem is fine now somehow!

Offline Red Dragon Thorn

  • Covenant Games
  • Global Moderator
  • Trade Count: (+10)
  • *****
  • Posts: 5373
    • -
    • North Central Region
    • Covenant Games
Re: Is Pharoh's Baker a Band ability or an exchange ability?
« Reply #13 on: March 18, 2012, 09:34:06 PM »
0
Not really sick about hearing about them,

It's just one of those slightly confusing rules, that doesn't really have a great simplification that we like.
Logged
www.covenantgames.com

Offline Minister Polarius

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 15920
  • Grand Minister of Music and Video Games
    • -
    • East Central Region
    • Macclelland Music
Re: Is Pharoh's Baker a Band ability or an exchange ability?
« Reply #14 on: March 18, 2012, 09:39:18 PM »
+1
Simplification:

Add to battle is an add to battle ability.

Banding is a banding ability.

Play is a play ability.

Exchange is an exchange ability.

Just stop confusing the issue and there's no problem.
Logged
I am not talking about T2 unless I am explicitly talking about T2. Also Mayhem is fine now somehow!

Offline Red Dragon Thorn

  • Covenant Games
  • Global Moderator
  • Trade Count: (+10)
  • *****
  • Posts: 5373
    • -
    • North Central Region
    • Covenant Games
Re: Is Pharoh's Baker a Band ability or an exchange ability?
« Reply #15 on: March 18, 2012, 09:42:36 PM »
0
I agree that would be simpler, however we (The Elders) Don't like that simplification, for a variety of reasons that we've hashed out before.
Logged
www.covenantgames.com

Offline Minister Polarius

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 15920
  • Grand Minister of Music and Video Games
    • -
    • East Central Region
    • Macclelland Music
Re: Is Pharoh's Baker a Band ability or an exchange ability?
« Reply #16 on: March 18, 2012, 09:47:27 PM »
0
You really don't have a choice. Because of some cards that are already printed, the current definition does. not. work.
Logged
I am not talking about T2 unless I am explicitly talking about T2. Also Mayhem is fine now somehow!
Pages: [1]   Go Up
« previous next »
 
SimplePortal 2.3.3 © 2008-2010, SimplePortal