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Title: What is the definition of a mult-coloured card?
Post by: Colin Michael on March 19, 2009, 05:56:03 PM
What colours are Paul for example?
Title: Re: What is the definition of a mult-coloured card?
Post by: YourMathTeacher on March 19, 2009, 05:57:49 PM
Every available color for that card at the time it is played. Paul therefore can use silver and teal, as well as the other normal colors.
Title: Re: What is the definition of a mult-coloured card?
Post by: The Schaef on March 19, 2009, 06:22:42 PM
A multi-colored card is a card of more than one brigade.  The card has each of those brigades as part of its characteristics.

The Winged Leopard is orange and black.  It can use orange Enhancements, it can use black Enhancements.  Cards that discard black brigade Evil Characters will discard The Winged Leopard.

Paul is silver/white/red/gold/green/teal/blue/purple.  He can use all good Enhancements, and he has access to all Sites.  Peter's Lie (return red Hero to territory) forces Paul to withdraw.
Title: Re: What is the definition of a mult-coloured card?
Post by: Colin Michael on March 19, 2009, 06:49:54 PM
Alright, I was just checking to make sure that one couldn't, say, retrieve torment with something like Asher. Seems obvious you couldn't, so obvious that someone might have forgotten to rule the definition as not being "every colour" (and thus making it exploitable).
Title: Re: What is the definition of a mult-coloured card?
Post by: The Schaef on March 19, 2009, 07:24:20 PM
Evil cards are evil colors, good cards are good colors, by definition they cannot have each other's colors.
Title: Re: What is the definition of a mult-coloured card?
Post by: Colin Michael on March 19, 2009, 07:42:20 PM
Evil cards are evil colors, good cards are good colors, by definition they cannot have each other's colors.
Under those grounds, it would have been then false to assume that Kingdoms of this World gave acess to all sites before it was ruled as a fortress, correct?
Title: Re: What is the definition of a mult-coloured card?
Post by: The Schaef on March 19, 2009, 07:48:06 PM
I would say so, yes.  Seven years down the road I'm not that worried about it.
Title: Re: What is the definition of a mult-coloured card?
Post by: YourMathTeacher on March 19, 2009, 07:55:56 PM
Under those grounds, it would have been then false to assume that Kingdoms of this World gave acess to all sites before it was ruled as a fortress, correct?

Was it ruled that way back then? Why would an evil card grant site access to a hero?
Title: Re: What is the definition of a mult-coloured card?
Post by: Colin Michael on March 19, 2009, 07:59:45 PM
Under those grounds, it would have been then false to assume that Kingdoms of this World gave acess to all sites before it was ruled as a fortress, correct?

Was it ruled that way back then? Why would an evil card grant site access to a hero?
I have no clue, I just know that it was.
Title: Re: What is the definition of a mult-coloured card?
Post by: Cameron the Conqueror on March 19, 2009, 08:51:19 PM
what is with the "coloured"?  Stop misspelling the word!
Title: Re: What is the definition of a mult-coloured card?
Post by: 777Godspeed on March 19, 2009, 09:01:28 PM
Is is actually misspelled or just an uncommon way to spell it in the US?

Latin color, via Old French coulour; the US spelling, which excludes the u, was chosen to conform to the word's Latin origin, and to make all derivatives consistent (colorimeter, colorize, colorless, etc; see below). Elsewhere in the English-speaking world, the u has been retained.



Godspeed,
Mike
Title: Re: What is the definition of a mult-coloured card?
Post by: YourMathTeacher on March 19, 2009, 09:08:20 PM
I have no clue, I just know that it was.

I certainly never ruled it that way back in 1999, but I don't know about others. I always thought that the special ability was the only thing that the multi-colored sites could do. That's why for the longest time I thought Dragon Raid was useless since it only discarded evil cards on a site.  ;D
Title: Re: What is the definition of a mult-coloured card?
Post by: Colin Michael on March 19, 2009, 09:48:43 PM
I have no clue, I just know that it was.

I certainly never ruled it that way back in 1999, but I don't know about others. I always thought that the special ability was the only thing that the multi-colored sites could do. That's why for the longest time I thought Dragon Raid was useless since it only discarded evil cards on a site.  ;D
Well, I'm pretty sure the 2nd Edition rulebook ruled it differently (providing KotW, Goshen, and Dragonraid as examples) which made New Jerusalem a pretty lame card (and dragonraid extremely underused as Goshen and KotW were better things to put in; practically everyone did).
Title: Re: What is the definition of a mult-coloured card?
Post by: SirNobody on March 23, 2009, 10:07:29 PM
Hey,

At nationals in 2000 Kingdoms and Goshen could be used as access sites.  Of course since they could be used it made sites a much less viable strategy and thus meant that they rarely were used because no one was playing sites, but I digress.  I believe the logic was that "multicolor sites grant access to any lost soul site" and Kingdoms is a multicolor site, but I agree with Schaef that the point is rather moot at this point in time.

Also potentially of note, in the 2000 era a lot of rules varied from one play group to another, so just because one play group allowed Kingdoms as an access site didn't necessarily mean that all play groups did.

Tschow,

Tim "Sir Nobody" Maly
Title: Re: What is the definition of a mult-coloured card?
Post by: Colin Michael on March 24, 2009, 10:15:13 AM
Hey,

At nationals in 2000 Kingdoms and Goshen could be used as access sites.  Of course since they could be used it made sites a much less viable strategy and thus meant that they rarely were used because no one was playing sites, but I digress.  I believe the logic was that "multicolor sites grant access to any lost soul site" and Kingdoms is a multicolor site, but I agree with Schaef that the point is rather moot at this point in time.

Also potentially of note, in the 2000 era a lot of rules varied from one play group to another, so just because one play group allowed Kingdoms as an access site didn't necessarily mean that all play groups did.

Tschow,

Tim "Sir Nobody" Maly
But now we know that evil fortress technically are only all of the evil colours, correct?

Could there be single coloured fortresses?
Title: Re: What is the definition of a mult-coloured card?
Post by: Gabe on March 24, 2009, 10:53:31 AM
But now we know that evil fortress technically are only all of the evil colours, correct?

Could there be single coloured fortresses?

Fortesses aren't associated with a brigade, only an allignment (good or evil).
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