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Potter's field and enhancement question.
« on: February 17, 2015, 08:59:50 PM »
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Part of Potter's Field SA: Set this site aside.

Desecration of Graves (Gold evil enhancement) : Select two heroes in one opponent's Potter's field and remove them from the game.

1. Since Potter's Field is in a player's Set aside area and not in play , if an EC played Desecration of Graves would they not be able to target any heroes in a potter's field because the ability on Desecration of Graves does not say "in a set aside area" and therefore defaults to in play?

This is probably similar to the Prince of the air where the card says place one chamber of Angels and it's contents beneath owner's deck and it needed a errata saying " in a set aside area"

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Re: Potter's field and enhancement question.
« Reply #1 on: February 17, 2015, 09:30:54 PM »
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If there is a specific target for an ability that is always not-in-play, it targets there implicitly.

Desecration of Graves targets Potter's Field in set-aside, because it targets Potter's Field specifically, which goes to set-aside.

Prince of the Air targets Chamber of Angels in set-aside, because it targets Chamber of Angels specifically, which goes to set-aside.

The best example of this is actually Falling Away:
"Select any Redeemed Soul and return card to your Land of Bondage. Character is treated as a Lost Soul. Subtract the rescue from appropriate player's current score. "

Nowhere in there does it explicitly state that it targets cards outside of play, but it implicitly states it by targeting Redeemed Souls specifically, which can only be held in Land of Redemption.  Without this implicit default targeting, not even that card works, hence the ruling.


So, when there is an implicit targeting location based on the specific target, which is always out of play, the card that does the targeting can still target there without being explicit on the out of play area.

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Re: Potter's field and enhancement question.
« Reply #2 on: February 17, 2015, 10:08:56 PM »
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How about the priests version of desecration of Graves? SA: select up to 2 heroes from one opponent's discard pile and/or fortress and remove them from the game?

 1. Can this one above target heroes in Potter's Field? or chamber of Angels? ( even though it is not specific to potter's field?)


2.  If an EC used Axe SA: if used by a Babylonian you may discard this card to discard a fortress.  Can this ability discard any fortress that is in a set aside area?

3. Could image of Jealousy (SA: Place on a hero or good fortress) be placed on any fortress in a set aside area? (like fishing boat , Chamber of Angels etc?)

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Re: Potter's field and enhancement question.
« Reply #3 on: February 17, 2015, 10:28:54 PM »
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How about the priests version of desecration of Graves? SA: select up to 2 heroes from one opponent's discard pile and/or fortress and remove them from the game?

 1. Can this one above target heroes in Potter's Field? or chamber of Angels? ( even though it is not specific to potter's field?)


2.  If an EC used Axe SA: if used by a Babylonian you may discard this card to discard a fortress.  Can this ability discard any fortress that is in a set aside area?

3. Could image of Jealousy (SA: Place on a hero or good fortress) be placed on any fortress in a set aside area? (like fishing boat , Chamber of Angels etc?)

No to all of the above. Because they don't target a specific target they all default to in play.
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