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Redemption® Collectible Trading Card Game HQ => Official Rules & Errata => Ruling Questions => Topic started by: The M on September 12, 2010, 04:56:07 PM
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Can my Watcher discard more than one evil character?
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Watcher (Pa)
Type: Hero Char. • Brigade: Silver • Ability: 4 / 7 • Class: None • Special Ability: If an Evil Character was or is currently set-aside, shuffle that Evil Character back into Owner's draw pile. Discard the set-aside card. • Play As: If an Evil Character was or is currently set-aside, shuffle [return] that Evil Character into owner's deck. • Identifiers: Generic OT Male Angel, Prophet • Verse: Daniel 4:23 • Availability: Patriarchs booster packs (Uncommon)
Please post card abilities in future posts so everyone doesn't have to hunt it down.
Watcher doesn't discard, first of all. Assuming you meant "Can my Watcher shuffle more than one evil character?" I would assume yes. Any EC that meets the conditions would be shuffled, from my understanding of the ability.
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well, it says an evil character. I would think that means one.
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I agree with joey. "An" is singular, and "shuffle [return]" is an instant ability. This is an instant ability with a singular target.
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I agree with joey. "An" is singular, and "shuffle [return]" is an instant ability. This is an instant ability with a singular target.
I'm pretty sure this is correct. It differs from the situation on Wandering Spirit, which says "your demon (singular)" because that is a triggered ability that can be triggered multiple times in one turn. If it was meant to target multiple EC's, it would have said: "Shuffle all EC's that are or have been set-aside into owner's decks."
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Maybe it's just me being picky about grammar again, but I still get the impression it's any that fit the condition. >_<
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I always thought it shuffled all that met the condition but rereading it right now I would have to agree with Joey and YMT that it shuffles one.
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Maybe it's just me being picky about grammar again, but I still get the impression it's any that fit the condition. >_<
Rather, I think you are reading too much into it.... overthinking it, as it were.
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Maybe it's just me being picky about grammar again, but I still get the impression it's any that fit the condition. >_<
Rather, I think you are reading too much into it.... overthinking it, as it were.
That's entirely possible/plausible. People tell me I over-think things quite frequently.
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That's entirely possible/plausible. People tell me I over-think things quite frequently.
That seems to be an epidemic in the Redemption circle. The average IQ of Redemption players is higher than the national norm.
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That's entirely possible/plausible. People tell me I over-think things quite frequently.
That seems to be an epidemic in the Redemption circle. The average IQ of Redemption players is higher than the national norm.
As is Missouri's MAP scores. Or whatever they call it now. I took my SAT for the first time in January, and I scored higher than 78% of the NATION, but only 44% of the STATE.
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As is Missouri's MAP scores. Or whatever they call it now. I took my SAT for the first time in January, and I scored higher than 78% of the NATION, but only 44% of the STATE.
I'm confused by your claim. Are you saying you scored higher than 78% of the nation on the SAT, but only higher than 44% of the state on the MAP? Or are you saying that your SAT score sheet gave you a breakdown of how you compared nationally and within the state?
If it is the former, then your comparison is invalid since the MAP and SAT are completely different tests with different standards, population, and scoring rubrics.
FYI, if you are planning on taking the SAT again, then make sure you study hard. Many colleges offer scholarships for people who score in the 80th percentile or higher.
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Hey,
I agree with joey. "An" is singular, and "shuffle [return]" is an instant ability. This is an instant ability with a singular target.
I'm pretty sure this is correct.
I agree.
Tschow,
Tim "Sir Nobody" Maly
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I weep. :'(
he is risen x5 would have been fun.
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Good find on a way to get White's only good battle-winner back into your Discard Pile where it can be recurred without having to wait for 3ish turns.
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As is Missouri's MAP scores. Or whatever they call it now. I took my SAT for the first time in January, and I scored higher than 78% of the NATION, but only 44% of the STATE.
I'm confused by your claim. Are you saying you scored higher than 78% of the nation on the SAT, but only higher than 44% of the state on the MAP? Or are you saying that your SAT score sheet gave you a breakdown of how you compared nationally and within the state?
If it is the former, then your comparison is invalid since the MAP and SAT are completely different tests with different standards, population, and scoring rubrics.
FYI, if you are planning on taking the SAT again, then make sure you study hard. Many colleges offer scholarships for people who score in the 80th percentile or higher.
Mo's MAP scores was separate from my taking the SAT. I was saying that I scored higher on the SAT than 78% of the nation, but only 44% of the state.
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Mo's MAP scores was separate from my taking the SAT. I was saying that I scored higher on the SAT than 78% of the nation, but only 44% of the state.
What I am asking is whether your percentage in the state was given to you with your SAT score report.
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Mo's MAP scores was separate from my taking the SAT. I was saying that I scored higher on the SAT than 78% of the nation, but only 44% of the state.
What I am asking is whether your percentage in the state was given to you with your SAT score report.
There it tis, good sir.
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So does that mean you're an above average American but a subpar Missourian?
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Mo's MAP scores was separate from my taking the SAT. I was saying that I scored higher on the SAT than 78% of the nation, but only 44% of the state.
What I am asking is whether your percentage in the state was given to you with your SAT score report.
There it tis, good sir.
There it is not. I am waiting for an actual statement that the SAT score report said 44% in Missouri. I was not aware that the SATs give you a state ranking. In fact, I am only aware that the SAT gives you a percentile score (which is national test takers for that year). What I think you are saying is that you scored in the 44th percentile for the MAP.
I wanted to confirm his claim. Your highlighted text does not answer my question. Although anything is possible, I find it extraordinarily unlikely that the average Missouri SAT tester scored considerably higher than the average national SAT test taker. If they did, then it is more likely that Missouri scores are tarnished, rather than Missouri test takers are better test-takers. Considering the size of the population for this statistical data, that kind of extreme gap is a significant anomaly that would raise red flags to any legitimate testing source.
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My searches of the Google says that Missouri is tied for third in SAT scores, behind Iowa and Minnesota (YAH BOI). So although they will be noticeably higher, I doubt it will be THAT HIGH.
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So although they will be noticeably higher, I doubt it will be THAT HIGH.
That is my point. Speaking purely mathematically, the claim is not possible. Either Missouri's scores were significantly higher than every other state (which your research indicated they are not), or the number of test takers in Missouri represents the vast majority of test takers nationally (which is not likely, given the state's comparative population).
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So although they will be noticeably higher, I doubt it will be THAT HIGH.
That is my point. Speaking purely mathematically, the claim is not possible. Either Missouri's scores were significantly higher than every other state (which your research indicated they are not), or the number of test takers in Missouri represents the vast majority of test takers nationally (which is not likely, given the state's comparative population).
I'll try and find my score report in the mass of school papers I call my room tonight.
Didn't Sauce's Google prove that in fact they ARE "significantly higher" than all but 2 states? If not significantly higher, then they are definitely higher than all but MN and IA.
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In order for that number split to be possible, it'd have to be significantly higher than every single state, not third place.
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I disagree with Pol. Theoretically if Iowa and MN only had one person who took the test each, Missouri could possibly meet the National % claim.
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I disagree with Pol. Theoretically if Iowa and MN only had one person who took the test each, Missouri could possibly meet the National % claim.
And that's supposed to be a scenario that is feasible? ;)
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It might be possible in Iowa, especially if the test is taken during the corn harvesting season, but there's no way that would happen in MN. We're too smart for that.
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In hindsight it isn't feasible. I was over estimating the literacy percentage in Iowa.
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Oh He is Risen follows evil characters? Never knew that... ;D