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Title: Unique or Generic?
Post by: Alex_Olijar on July 18, 2009, 11:27:01 AM: Philistine Armor Bearer
Type: Evil Char. • Brigade: Black • Ability: 6 / 6 • Class: Warrior • Special Ability: You may exchange this card with an evil Philistine in your deck or discard pile. Evil Enhancements remain in battle. Cannot be negated. • Identifiers: OT Male Human, Philistia, Fought Earthly Battle • Verse: I Samuel 17:7 • Availability: Faith of Fathers (Set 6)

Is he Unique or Generic?
Title: Re: Unique or Generic?
Post by: sk on July 18, 2009, 12:20:03 PM: He's not listed as generic in the REG, but the verse on the card makes me think he should be.
Title: Re: Unique or Generic?
Post by: Isildur on July 18, 2009, 12:31:39 PM: Im 90% sure hes generic or at least thats what ive been told ;), there was some topic out there that talked about this already.... It prolly got killed in the purge though :(
Title: Re: Unique or Generic?
Post by: sk on July 18, 2009, 12:39:51 PM: You're right, there was another thread (http://www.cactusgamedesign.com/message_boards/index.php?topic=14751.msg230370#msg230370).
Title: Re: Unique or Generic?
Post by: Isildur on July 18, 2009, 12:44:53 PM: cool I save the day 8)
Title: Re: Unique or Generic?
Post by: Alex_Olijar on July 18, 2009, 02:10:12 PM: That thread doesn't exactly hold an answer. No one seems to know what he is.
Title: Re: Unique or Generic?
Post by: Isildur on July 18, 2009, 02:20:24 PM: The thread stopped after Bryon said he ruled in Generic.
Title: Re: Unique or Generic?
Post by: Alex_Olijar on July 18, 2009, 02:26:14 PM: Quote from: Isildur on July 18, 2009, 02:20:24 PM
The thread stopped after Bryon said he ruled in Generic.

He just said that's how he has ruled it in the past.

Quote from: Da Muzik Maker on July 18, 2009, 02:24:47 PM
well depending on what a armour bearer does is ther a bunch? or is ther one? i would say it is generic.

He's unqiue IMO. Besides the fact him being generic will soon break T2, he is the specific armobearer for Goliath.
Title: Re: Unique or Generic?
Post by: FresnoRedemption on July 19, 2009, 03:43:36 PM: Personally, I'm kind of torn on this. The card may be based on a specific person, but "Philistine Armorbearer" is a title, and surely there were many Philistine armorbearers. However, I haven't checked the Scripture reference but I'm guessing the card is called "Philistine Armorbearer" because his name wasn't actually given in the verse.
Title: Re: Unique or Generic?
Post by: Minister Polarius on July 19, 2009, 04:21:38 PM: If the verse is referencing Goliath's specific armorbearer, the card should be Unique as Widow is unique because the verse references a specific widow.
Title: Re: Unique or Generic?
Post by: The Guardian on July 19, 2009, 05:03:03 PM: That's not gonna break T2... I'm more concerned about High Places... :P
Title: Re: Unique or Generic?
Post by: BubbleBoy on July 19, 2009, 09:45:57 PM: I don't know if there are official qualifications for unique characters, but since armorbearer is a title rather than a name I am inclined to call him generic, regardless of what the verse refers to. (If his name was "The Armorbearer" that would be different.) However, if Widow was ruled to be unique then my contribution is worth crap. :P
Title: Re: Unique or Generic?
Post by: sk on July 19, 2009, 10:03:41 PM: When Widow was brought up before, Rob decided she should be unique.
Title: Re: Unique or Generic?
Post by: BubbleBoy on July 19, 2009, 10:12:43 PM: Well then I suppose Armorbearer should follow the pattern, even though I disagree. :-\