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Title: Trigger Queston
Post by: yirgogo on April 28, 2015, 07:39:57 PM

1. If I block with Abimelech, and I play Grapes of Wrath, then does his second part of the ability trigger?
Abimelech: If Gideon is in your discard pile, negate and discard an Artifact or single color Site. If you win this battle, you may discard an evil card.

Title: Re: Trigger Queston
Post by: Eragon5 on April 28, 2015, 07:43:54 PM

Yes because this battle he prevented a rescue.

Title: Re: Trigger Queston
Post by: browarod on April 28, 2015, 08:59:16 PM

The answer to this depends on the solution reached in this thread (http://www.cactusgamedesign.com/message_boards/ruling-questions/discarding-cards-with-triggered-abilities-in-the-battle-phase/). Since Abimelech is a trigger, but he's in discard pile due to Grapes, depending on how triggers are ruled in that thread he might be able to still trigger and he might not.

Title: Re: Trigger Queston
Post by: yirgogo on April 28, 2015, 09:01:46 PM

I had it ruled that he didn't win the battle, last Minnesota game night, but an elder wasn't there, but based on what you said, he won the battle, but his ability is the issue?

Title: Re: Trigger Queston
Post by: Red Dragon Thorn on April 28, 2015, 09:06:36 PM

Quote from: yirgogo on April 28, 2015, 09:01:46 PM

I had it ruled that he didn't win the battle, last Minnesota game night, but an elder wasn't there, but based on what you said, he won the battle, but his ability is the issue?

Oh he definitely won the battle. We're hard at work on resolving when abilities do and do not work. I would be inclined to rule that you would be able to discard an evil card after Grapes.

Title: Re: Trigger Queston
Post by: Eragon5 on April 28, 2015, 09:10:16 PM

@RDT: I would agree with this.
@Browarod: How is this different than mutual removal? Is it just order of abilities in Grapes?

Title: Re: Trigger Queston
Post by: browarod on April 28, 2015, 09:57:57 PM

As RDT said, Abimelech definitely wins the battle, it's just a matter of whether his ability can trigger if he's no longer in play.

Title: Re: Trigger Queston
Post by: Eragon5 on April 29, 2015, 08:08:46 AM

Sorry, I had a similar, "what would trigger Abimelech's ability " thread, and mutual removal was on the list. I guess I didn't distinguish between win the battle and would it actually trigger since he is no longer in play.

Title: Re: Trigger Queston
Post by: yirgogo on April 29, 2015, 04:13:00 PM

Can you link that thread? I tried to find it, what is it called?

Title: Re: Trigger Queston
Post by: browarod on April 29, 2015, 04:50:35 PM

Quote from: yirgogo on April 29, 2015, 04:13:00 PM

Can you link that thread? I tried to find it, what is it called?

Quote from: browarod on April 28, 2015, 08:59:16 PM

The answer to this depends on the solution reached in this thread (http://www.cactusgamedesign.com/message_boards/ruling-questions/discarding-cards-with-triggered-abilities-in-the-battle-phase/).

The underlined part above and in my original post is a link to the thread.

Title: Re: Trigger Queston
Post by: yirgogo on April 29, 2015, 05:29:15 PM

Sorry, missed it.