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Redemption® Collectible Trading Card Game HQ => Official Rules & Errata => Ruling Questions => Topic started by: Korunks on December 14, 2009, 12:19:21 PM
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Does Midianite Attack make the battle FBTN or is it like a one time Negate on every thing in the battle? Can it be interrupted?
Midianite Attack
Type: Evil Enh. • Brigade: Crimson • Ability: 1 / 5 • Class: None • Special Ability: All special abilities except banding on characters and enhancements except this one are negated. • Identifiers: None • Verse: Judges 6:3-4 • Availability: Patriarchs booster packs (Uncommon)
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It makes the battle FBTN, except banding abilities of course. It can be interrupted, but only by a "Cannot be Prevented/Negated" interrupt card.
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But it doesn't actually say that, and it has no play as in the REG. I am just wondering where this information can be found, because as it stands right now I would not rule it as a FBTN card.
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But it doesn't actually say that, and it has no play as in the REG. I am just wondering where this information can be found, because as it stands right now I would not rule it as a FBTN card.
It's a FBN except for banding. Like Abraham's Servent to Ur is
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'fight by the numbers' and 'battle is determined by the numbers' is redundant text. midianite attack is a fbtnb card.
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I'm basing my ruling on another card that does what you are describing:
Begging for Grain
Type: Evil Enh. • Brigade: Grey • Ability: 1 / 2 • Class: None • Special Ability: Negate all enhancements currently in play except this one. Begging for Grain is negated if O.T. Joseph enters battle. • Identifiers: None • Verse: Genesis 42:7 • Availability: Patriarchs booster packs
It never specifies a one time use, and negate is a prevent.
But it doesn't actually say that
Same exact thing to you.
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The thing about Begging for Grain is that it specifies in play, Midianite attacks does no such thing - Negate is interupt and prevent, so it lasts.
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The thing about Begging for Grain is that it specifies in play...
You mean it specifies currently in play. That's why it and Devourer and Burning Bush aren't FbtN.
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Right, sorry, I'm tired, its only monday, and its already been a long day.
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I'm basing my ruling on another card that does what you are describing:
Begging for Grain
Type: Evil Enh. • Brigade: Grey • Ability: 1 / 2 • Class: None • Special Ability: Negate all enhancements currently in play except this one. Begging for Grain is negated if O.T. Joseph enters battle. • Identifiers: None • Verse: Genesis 42:7 • Availability: Patriarchs booster packs
It never specifies a one time use, and negate is a prevent.
This wouldn't prevent the next enhancements played in battle because it isn't a target for Begging.
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I'm basing my ruling on another card that does what you are describing:
Begging for Grain
Type: Evil Enh. • Brigade: Grey • Ability: 1 / 2 • Class: None • Special Ability: Negate all enhancements currently in play except this one. Begging for Grain is negated if O.T. Joseph enters battle. • Identifiers: None • Verse: Genesis 42:7 • Availability: Patriarchs booster packs
It EDIT: [Midianite Attack] never specifies a one time use, and negate is a prevent.
This wouldn't prevent the next enhancements played in battle because it isn't a target for Begging.
Right, that's what I said. Sorry for my replaced "it".
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Does Midianite Attack make the battle FBTN or is it like a one time Negate on every thing in the battle? Can it be interrupted?
Midianite Attack
Type: Evil Enh. • Brigade: Crimson • Ability: 1 / 5 • Class: None • Special Ability: All special abilities except banding on characters and enhancements except this one are negated. • Identifiers: None • Verse: Judges 6:3-4 • Availability: Patriarchs booster packs (Uncommon)
I've always played it FBTNB, but looking at it, I agree, it doesn't say for the rest of the battle, and thus it's an instant, not an ongoing.
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Does Midianite Attack make the battle FBTN or is it like a one time Negate on every thing in the battle? Can it be interrupted?
Midianite Attack
Type: Evil Enh. • Brigade: Crimson • Ability: 1 / 5 • Class: None • Special Ability: All special abilities except banding on characters and enhancements except this one are negated. • Identifiers: None • Verse: Judges 6:3-4 • Availability: Patriarchs booster packs (Uncommon)
I've always played it FBTNB, but looking at it, I agree, it doesn't say for the rest of the battle, and thus it's an instant, not an ongoing.
But this doesn't say certain enhancements. It says all which means ones played after it too. If it said in play or something like Begging then it wouldn't be for the rest of the battle
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Negate is ongoing. As is Prevent. Only Interrupt is instant.
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As said before, negate is a prevent. Unless it specifies a limit, it continues for the battle. It is a FBTNB card. And ongoing.
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As said before, negate is a prevent. Unless it specifies a limit, it continues for the battle. It is a FBTNB card. And ongoing.
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Captain of the Host
Brigade: Silver • Ability: 10/10 • Class: Warrior • Special Ability: Negate all non-weapon class special abilities
except banding. • Play as: Negate all special abilities on characters and enhancements (except banding, weapons, and
Captain’s special abilities). • Availability: Kings booster packs (Rare) • Background
This card does not state that you fight by the numbers, it does not specify that the negate continues. Going by the following comments, Cap would not be FBTN either.
Does Midianite Attack make the battle FBTN or is it like a one time Negate on every thing in the battle? Can it be interrupted?
Midianite Attack
Type: Evil Enh. • Brigade: Crimson • Ability: 1 / 5 • Class: None • Special Ability: All special abilities except banding on characters and enhancements except this one are negated. • Identifiers: None • Verse: Judges 6:3-4 • Availability: Patriarchs booster packs (Uncommon)
I've always played it FBTNB, but looking at it, I agree, it doesn't say for the rest of the battle, and thus it's an instant, not an ongoing.
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ok, I understand.