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Redemption® Collectible Trading Card Game HQ => Official Rules & Errata => Ruling Questions => Topic started by: redemption collector 777 on October 06, 2015, 12:01:31 PM
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According to the wiki and the redemption visual site Thirty Pieces of Silver play as is:
Regardless of battle outcome, discard one Hero in play at the end of battle that you blocked. Negate David's Harp. May be used once per battle and twice per game.
1. Is this play as current and correct for Thirty pieces of silver nowadays? If not , is it the ability that is printed on the card?
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I maintain that 30 pieces of silver's play as is an errata disguised as a play as and should be disregarded because the card has no errata.
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According to the wiki and the redemption visual site Thirty Pieces of Silver play as is:
Regardless of battle outcome, discard one Hero in play at the end of battle that you blocked. Negate David's Harp. May be used once per battle and twice per game.
1. Is this play as current and correct for Thirty pieces of silver nowadays? If not , is it the ability that is printed on the card?
If TPS was written today the ability would probably look like this:
Regardless of battle outcome, discard a Hero that was in battle. Negate David’s Harp. Limit twice.
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If TPS was written today the ability would probably look like this:
Regardless of battle outcome, discard a Hero that was in battle. Negate David’s Harp. Limit twice.
So just how does TPS work? Because that's not what the ability says it does, and while I understand that is how we'd like it to be played, as Drrek has said there is no errata yet. Is one forthcoming? I'd like to point out that the problem has been there for a 14 years and that continuing to not fix it for whatever reasons, even good ones, wont make the problem go away.
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I agree that 30 pieces should get a final and official errata to it soon.
I hope there is one that is forthcoming.
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Every time someone asks about 30 Pieces of Silver I suggest that it should be ruled as: Each battle you discard a rescuing hero and it's discarded after it's been active for two rounds regardless of how many discards were done. It's essentially written that way and won't need an errata.
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Except that's not how it's written. The discard (as written) doesn't have to target a hero that was in battle.
Thirty Pieces of Silver - Regardless of battle outcome Hero is discarded. David's Harp has no effect. May be used twice.
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Except that's not how it's written. The discard (as written) doesn't have to target a hero that was in battle.
Thirty Pieces of Silver - Regardless of battle outcome Hero is discarded. David's Harp has no effect. May be used twice.
Fair enough. I wasn't really looking at the ability. And honestly, I'd be fine with it working on any hero... it would actually be a kinda good card if it could off any hero at the end of each battle. But I could also see it having an errata to only affect heroes in battle. But I'd like to see the limited use to be rounds active, rather than discards.
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But I'd like to see the limited use to be rounds active, rather than discards.
Think how devastating that would be in multi/TEAMs/Booster if it was limited to rounds so you got to off a hero after each players battle...
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But I'd like to see the limited use to be rounds active, rather than discards.
Think how devastating that would be in multi/TEAMs/Booster if it was limited to rounds so you got to off a hero after each players battle...
I don't see it as a big issue. It's basically the same number of heroes per player as in single player, plus if you want to avoid it just wait a couple of turns. My main reason is that it's actually written like that, and I'd like all limited use artifacts to be based on rounds (unless they are written differently like Ark of the Covenant and the Warriors Holy Grail, I don't remember how the new one is worded), the only cards that I think might be issues are Unsuccessful (which I think is just badly written as an artifact) and possibly the new Holy Grail.