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Redemption® Collectible Trading Card Game HQ => Official Rules & Errata => Ruling Questions => Topic started by: RTSmaniac on March 08, 2013, 12:42:17 AM
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Opponent plays Siege and all characters are in battle, do the order of operations matter when opponent is deciding on what order to activate abilities?
975 Siege Siege 2/2 Micah 5:1 Brown EE All of Holder's Evil Characters in play and all of opponent's Heroes in play must join the battle. N
CARDS WITH MULTIPLE SPECIAL ABILITIES
When a single card has more than one special ability (including gained abilities), and an order is not specified, perform the abilities in this order:
1. First, complete all printed special abilities in the order written on the card EXCEPT those that add a character to the battle.
2. Then complete all gained abilities (gained in set-aside or on previous turn, etc.), EXCEPT those that add a character to the battle.
3. Then, complete all weapon abilities.
4. Then, complete banding abilities.
5. Last, complete choose blocker abilities.
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The OoR matters with the individual cards, but the person who played it can choose to active the characters in whatever order they choose.
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The traditional ruling has been that all characters are added simultaneously, but that their SAs happen 1 at a time. So you have characters who are somehow "in battle" but at the same time have not activated their special abilities (which normally is a part of entering battle).
I think that this old ruling needs to be looked at again in light of a more top-down approach. It seems inconsistent.
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The traditional ruling has been that all characters are added simultaneously, but that their SAs happen 1 at a time. So you have characters who are somehow "in battle" but at the same time have not activated their special abilities (which normally is a part of entering battle).
I think that this old ruling needs to be looked at again in light of a more top-down approach. It seems inconsistent.
There was a topic a while ago where somebody (I think it was Pol) argued vehemently that that system needed to be changed, and I was sort of under the impression that it had been, but I cannot find the topic anywhere.