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Title: Shuffle Before Dominants
Post by: LordZardeck on November 09, 2010, 08:47:52 PM
If my opponent plays A New Beginning, will I be able to play Son of God and New Jerusalem before the shuffle?
Title: Re: Shuffle Before Dominants
Post by: Red Dragon Thorn on November 09, 2010, 08:50:09 PM
Nope. ANB has to complete before anything else can be played - So SoG and NJ are both gone.
Title: Re: Shuffle Before Dominants
Post by: Lamborghini_diablo on November 09, 2010, 09:22:26 PM
Correct, instant actions must be carried out before you do anything else. The exception is interrupting / negating or more recently, "Insteading" the ability.
Title: Re: Shuffle Before Dominants
Post by: TheJaylor on November 09, 2010, 10:15:12 PM
I remember the days when you could play SoG+NJ before all the Lost Souls got shuffled by the Shuffler LS and then i got really mad when i heard you couldn't do that anymore and i would have won a tourney because of it and i didn't hear the new ruling.
Title: Re: Shuffle Before Dominants
Post by: browarod on November 09, 2010, 10:29:17 PM
I remember the days when you could play SoG+NJ before all the Lost Souls got shuffled by the Shuffler LS and then i got really mad when i heard you couldn't do that anymore and i would have won a tourney because of it and i didn't hear the new ruling.
You can if SoG or NJ is the one rescuing the Shuffler.
Title: Re: Shuffle Before Dominants
Post by: TheJaylor on November 09, 2010, 10:32:37 PM
I remember the days when you could play SoG+NJ before all the Lost Souls got shuffled by the Shuffler LS and then i got really mad when i heard you couldn't do that anymore and i would have won a tourney because of it and i didn't hear the new ruling.
You can if SoG or NJ is the one rescuing the Shuffler.
really? wasn't sure about that(complete sarcasm)
Title: Re: Shuffle Before Dominants
Post by: SomeKittens on November 10, 2010, 03:40:39 PM
Can I play an interrupt, SoG/NJ, and then let it complete?
Title: Re: Shuffle Before Dominants
Post by: Rawrlolsauce! on November 10, 2010, 03:42:53 PM
If the interrupt says "Interrupt the battle. You may play dominants", then yes. If it is something like Words or Reach, no.

Come to think of it, why have I never seen anyone interrupt ANB?
Title: Re: Shuffle Before Dominants
Post by: Minister Polarius on November 10, 2010, 04:14:45 PM
Because it's CBI. By the end of its SA it's a new turn.
Title: Re: Shuffle Before Dominants
Post by: SomeKittens on November 10, 2010, 04:18:16 PM
Ah.  That would explain it.
Title: Re: Shuffle Before Dominants
Post by: browarod on November 10, 2010, 04:31:19 PM
Because it's CBI. By the end of its SA it's a new turn.
I thought if you were using ANB in the typical, cheap way (on a converted Philistine with the Sword) that the EC would get to interrupt/negate since they'd be losing the battle?
Title: Re: Shuffle Before Dominants
Post by: SomeKittens on November 10, 2010, 04:33:34 PM
An ability has to complete before it can be interrupted (I think).  Once ANB's ability has completed, there's no opportunity to interrupt.
Title: Re: Shuffle Before Dominants
Post by: browarod on November 10, 2010, 04:34:48 PM
An ability has to complete before it can be interrupted (I think).  Once ANB's ability has completed, there's no opportunity to interrupt.
And yet I can still interrupt a capture card after it was played even though I'm technically captured and no longer a character with a brigade that the interrupt/negate enhancement can activate on.
Title: Re: Shuffle Before Dominants
Post by: Minister Polarius on November 10, 2010, 08:05:51 PM
There's no Capture card that starts a new turn. If there were, it'd be CBI.
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