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Title: Should Offering Your Son Be Considered an Offering Enhancement?
Post by: TheJaylor on May 30, 2019, 09:07:22 AM
I know Abraham didn't end up having to offer his son, but perhaps the intention to do so and the resulting burnt offering of the ram in the thicket qualifies it.

Not really game-changing by any means, just something I noticed. Thoughts?
Title: Re: Should Offering Your Son Be Considered an Offering Enhancement?
Post by: Gabe on May 30, 2019, 09:50:19 AM
I know Abraham didn't end up having to offer his son, but perhaps the intention to do so and the resulting burnt offering of the ram in the thicket qualifies it.

Not really game-changing by any means, just something I noticed. Thoughts?

Offering has a pretty strict definition in Redemption, such that even Burning Incense doesn't qualify.

Quote from: ORDIR>Offering
The offerings in Redemption® refer to those done on the altar. The following Redemption® cards refer to offerings

By "altar" that refers to the main altar in the Tabernacle/Temple.
Title: Re: Should Offering Your Son Be Considered an Offering Enhancement?
Post by: Red Dragon Thorn on May 30, 2019, 09:57:34 AM
I'll have to go back and re-read the passage, but I'm fairly certain Scapegoat doesn't qualify under that definition
Title: Re: Should Offering Your Son Be Considered an Offering Enhancement?
Post by: TheJaylor on May 30, 2019, 07:35:44 PM
Hm, I see.

I'll have to go back and re-read the passage, but I'm fairly certain Scapegoat doesn't qualify under that definition
Aaron sends the goat out into the wilderness, so it doesn't seem like it.
Title: Re: Should Offering Your Son Be Considered an Offering Enhancement?
Post by: goalieking87 on May 31, 2019, 08:29:33 AM
Hm, I see.

I'll have to go back and re-read the passage, but I'm fairly certain Scapegoat doesn't qualify under that definition
Aaron sends the goat out into the wilderness, so it doesn't seem like it.

I believe there are two goats though. The “scapegoat” itself gets released, but the other one gets burned on the altar.

Not trying to make an argument one way or another, just adding info.
Title: Re: Should Offering Your Son Be Considered an Offering Enhancement?
Post by: TheJaylor on June 01, 2019, 08:45:51 AM
Yeah, you're right, but the scapegoat is specifically the one that doesn't get sacrificed on the altar. So perhaps there should be a different card called "Unluckygoat" that's the offering card. :P


Aaron shall bring the goat whose lot falls to the Lord and sacrifice it for a sin offering. But the goat chosen by lot as the scapegoat shall be presented alive before the Lord to be used for making atonement by sending it into the wilderness as a scapegoat.
Leviticus 16:9-‬10 NIV
https://bible.com/bible/111/lev.16.9-10.NIV
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