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Title: Shobach
Post by: RTSmaniac on November 07, 2009, 11:46:50 AM
Can this guy hold multiple weapons?
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Title: Re: Shobach
Post by: Master KChief on November 07, 2009, 11:53:20 AM
no. what is bad even more is he can only attach non-grey weapons during battle.
Title: Re: Shobach
Post by: RTSmaniac on November 07, 2009, 12:09:45 PM
may use and hold weapons?
Title: Re: Shobach
Post by: DaClock on November 07, 2009, 12:10:58 PM
Try the sentence without an S at the end of weapons, see how that sounds.
Title: Re: Shobach
Post by: Master KChief on November 07, 2009, 01:02:35 PM
Try the sentence without an S at the end of weapons, see how that sounds.

well if he did that, it wouldnt be grammatically correct. :)

i can see rts' point. but it can go both ways, really.
Title: Re: Shobach
Post by: YourMathTeacher on November 07, 2009, 03:50:47 PM
I would think that normal defaults still exist. For instance, not only would I rule that Shobach can only hold one weapon after battle, but I would I also rule that he can not use or hold good weapons unless he is converted. I have a feeling that his SA was worded so that he could be converted and still have a useful SA (much like Namaan), not to give him the ability to hold 20 weapons that would include good and evil cards.

With that said, since the prevailing view of the combomongers is that SAs override every rule in the rulebook, perhaps a "Play As" will be required.
Title: Re: Shobach
Post by: Bryon on November 07, 2009, 03:57:51 PM
"This EC may use weapon class enhancements of any brigade.  After this battle, he may keep a weapon class enhancement of any brigade."

Of course, the game rule that ECs only use evil enhancements still applies. 
Title: Re: Shobach
Post by: Master KChief on November 07, 2009, 03:58:07 PM
you gotta admit tho, shobach all geared up in wc enhancements would be pretty sweet. kinda like megaman and all his different guns. :)
Title: Re: Shobach
Post by: YourMathTeacher on November 07, 2009, 04:01:31 PM
"This EC may use weapon class enhancements of any brigade.  After this battle, he may keep a weapon class enhancement of any brigade."

I would not limit him to EC. Allowing him to have his ability when converted would be fun. "This character" perhaps?
Title: Re: Shobach
Post by: browarod on November 07, 2009, 04:02:25 PM
you gotta admit tho, shobach all geared up in wc enhancements would be pretty sweet. kinda like megaman and all his different guns. :)
The problem with that is when he enters battle and all of them activate. It'd be a mess to figure out initiative for what order they activate in.
Title: Re: Shobach
Post by: YourMathTeacher on November 07, 2009, 04:06:08 PM
you gotta admit tho, shobach all geared up in wc enhancements would be pretty sweet. kinda like megaman and all his different guns. :)
The problem with that is when he enters battle and all of them activate. It'd be a mess to figure out initiative for what order they activate in.

There are rules in place for that. I would worry about the OP part - Namaan's C&H, Swift Horses, 2K Horses, Egyptian Spear, etc. and then "Play Next" with NC&H to play a battle winner. You could draw a ton of cards and do a whole lot of damage every turn.
Title: Re: Shobach
Post by: browarod on November 07, 2009, 04:10:07 PM
you gotta admit tho, shobach all geared up in wc enhancements would be pretty sweet. kinda like megaman and all his different guns. :)
The problem with that is when he enters battle and all of them activate. It'd be a mess to figure out initiative for what order they activate in.

There are rules in place for that. I would worry about the OP part - Namaan's C&H, Swift Horses, 2K Horses, Egyptian Spear, etc. and then "Play Next" with NC&H to play a battle winner. You could draw a ton of cards and do a whole lot of damage every turn.
Shobach the new speed mechanic?  ::)
Title: Re: Shobach
Post by: Bryon on November 07, 2009, 04:32:52 PM
"This EC may use weapon class enhancements of any brigade.  After this battle, he may keep a weapon class enhancement of any brigade."

I would not limit him to EC. Allowing him to have his ability when converted would be fun. "This character" perhaps?
Good point.  Good fix.
Title: Re: Shobach
Post by: Master KChief on November 07, 2009, 04:55:33 PM
you gotta admit tho, shobach all geared up in wc enhancements would be pretty sweet. kinda like megaman and all his different guns. :)
The problem with that is when he enters battle and all of them activate. It'd be a mess to figure out initiative for what order they activate in.

There are rules in place for that. I would worry about the OP part - Namaan's C&H, Swift Horses, 2K Horses, Egyptian Spear, etc. and then "Play Next" with NC&H to play a battle winner. You could draw a ton of cards and do a whole lot of damage every turn.

thats not exactly OP. people have been doing that for years in t2 with 5x assyrian archers + 5x 2k horses.
Title: Re: Shobach
Post by: YourMathTeacher on November 07, 2009, 05:25:56 PM
thats not exactly OP. people have been doing that for years in t2 with 5x assyrian archers + 5x 2k horses.

I only play T1, so that is what I was referring to. Sorry for not specifying.
Title: Re: Shobach
Post by: Alex_Olijar on November 08, 2009, 12:27:38 AM
He could only play two enhancements. Big deal.
Title: Re: Shobach
Post by: Master KChief on November 08, 2009, 01:16:44 AM
yeah, only nc&h and 2k horses.
Title: Re: Shobach
Post by: Minister Polarius on November 08, 2009, 02:09:16 AM
If he were to be able to mega-man it, most of my defense would be him with House of Rimmon, Torment, Healing of Naaman with Altar of Dagon, and a ton of weapons. Bow, 2kH, NH&C, Pekah's Blade, Sword, Philistines, Ashdod, and a bunch of battle-winners.
Title: Re: Shobach
Post by: Master KChief on November 08, 2009, 03:15:28 AM
why do you need pekah's blade if you have altar of dagon...
Title: Re: Shobach
Post by: Minister Polarius on November 08, 2009, 04:21:29 AM
Supply and demand.
Title: Re: Shobach
Post by: BubbleBoy on November 08, 2009, 09:05:25 AM
If you think logically, one man cannot ride two chariots, or hold five swords. That's a big reason WC enhancements work like they do.

I think if Shobach could hold multiple weapons, he most certainly would be OP.
Title: Re: Shobach
Post by: Master KChief on November 08, 2009, 10:52:17 AM
megaman can hold like 4357894357 guns though.
Title: Re: Shobach
Post by: Lamborghini_diablo on November 08, 2009, 12:05:34 PM
If you think logically, one man cannot hold five swords.

Obviously you don't think like the guys who created Final Fantasy do:

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That dude holds six swords.... SIX swords.
Title: Re: Shobach
Post by: 3-Liner And Bags Of Chips on November 08, 2009, 01:19:05 PM
 :o :o :o
Title: Re: Shobach
Post by: adamfincher on November 08, 2009, 02:45:41 PM
ROFL lambo. that was funny. the megaman idea is good also. specially with unknown nation to pull him out if u get a bunch of weapons..
Title: Re: Shobach
Post by: Clarinetguy097 on November 08, 2009, 03:45:17 PM
megaman can hold like 4357894357 guns though.
4357894357 is a phone number in Utah. Not that I know who uses it...
Title: Re: Shobach
Post by: Master KChief on November 08, 2009, 03:49:10 PM
hmm i just called it and a little kid answered. so i guess its a residential number.
Title: Re: Shobach
Post by: Rawrlolsauce! on November 08, 2009, 03:55:49 PM
Thats my good friend Will Wright! You best not prank call him or you'll be sorry >:(
Title: Re: Shobach
Post by: adamfincher on November 08, 2009, 04:20:01 PM
hmm i just called it and a little kid answered. so i guess its a residential number.
well thats polite ::)
Title: Re: Shobach
Post by: 3-Liner And Bags Of Chips on November 08, 2009, 09:36:30 PM
Thats my good friend Will Wright! You best not prank call him or you'll be sorry >:(
::)
Seriously?
Title: Re: Shobach
Post by: BubbleBoy on March 02, 2010, 11:26:09 AM
Sorry for the slight necropost, but I'd just like to say the Shobach's ability should have been an abilifier.
Title: Re: Shobach
Post by: Warrior_Monk on March 02, 2010, 06:03:59 PM
Sorry for the slight necropost, but I'd just like to say the Shobach's ability should have been an abilifier.
yeah, special identifiers ftw.
btw, do those exist yet?
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