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Redemption® Collectible Trading Card Game HQ => Official Rules & Errata => Ruling Questions => Topic started by: Nameless on January 25, 2012, 05:23:06 PM
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I a T-2 deck can you have,
Seraphim (W band to Green) and Seraph (ROA) and Seraph w/ the Live Coal in your territory all at the same time?
Can you have 2 of any of the above in your territory all at the same time?
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I don't remember the answer, but there is one, and it should be in FAQ's.
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You're right - It should be - I'll dig up the answer and get it in there for you guys :)
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Seraph, Seraph with a Live Coal, and Cherubim are all separate characters. Anything involving a Seraph or Seraphim (aside from w/ a Live Coal) is considered the same character.
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Yep, I agree with Chronic. I'm rereading a couple of threads now. but I'm in agreement with his first statement.
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Hm, RDT agrees with me and Gabe liked something I posted on Facebook. Does this make me an Elder?
Edit: RDT just accepted my friend request on Facebook. I'm definitely an Elder now.
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I was just curious as to what Gabe had liked ;) I was like - Huh, I'm not friends with him - Oh look, in amongst my 20 some friend requests! Its his avatar! Cool!
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Did you see the post he had liked? It wasn't my profile picture, which I've had since last February. I'm sad you only love me because of Gabe and your own curiousity though.
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Actually the seraphim from warrior is generic according to the REG.
Seraphim (to Green) (Wa)
Type: Hero Char. • Brigade: Silver • Ability: 5 / 5 • Class: None • Special Ability: May band to any Green Brigade Hero. • Identifiers: Generic OT Male Angel • Verse: Isaiah 6:6 • Availability: Warriors booster packs (Common)
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Yeah I assumed for Isaiah purposes you could have in play in T2 at the same time:
4 x Seraphim (may band to green) (generic)
1 x Seraph with a Live Coal (unique)
4 x Angel of his Presence (generic)
I thought from an earlier thread Seraph = Seraphim (may band to green), and Seraph with a Live Coal = Seraphim (may band to blue). What was the final elder ruling? If Seraphim (may band to green) is generic, why is Seraph not considered generic when they are considered the same character?
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Yeah I assumed for Isaiah purposes you could have in play in T2 at the same time:
4 x Seraphim (may band to green) (generic)
1 x Seraph with a Live Coal (unique)
4 x Angel of his Presence (generic)
I thought from an earlier thread Seraph = Seraphim (may band to green), and Seraph with a Live Coal = Seraphim (may band to blue). What was the final elder ruling? If Seraphim (may band to green) is generic, why is Seraph not considered generic when they are considered the same character?
I can affirm that this is what I understand. I'm not certain why Seraph is considered unique.
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Just found this topic with this post by Bryon but its old. If still valid I could replace the four seraphim with four seraphs I assume, and still be able to keep all four in play at once.
Seraph and Seraphim are both generic.
A Seraph is an angel (singular). Seraphim are angels (plural). The art depicts only one seraph, so the card got an accurate name. It is still generic.
http://www.cactusgamedesign.com/message_boards/ruling-questions/seraphseraphim/msg226862/#msg226862 (http://www.cactusgamedesign.com/message_boards/ruling-questions/seraphseraphim/msg226862/#msg226862)
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I agree that should be the case, and the REG needs to be updated.
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To be fair, Seraph is a type/classification of angel rather than a specific being. That's why Seraph w/ Coal is unique, because it's a specific seraph.
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According to the scripture on Seraph with a Live Coal, he should be considered unique. According to making the Isaiah deck better, he should be considered generic. ;D
According to the scripture on the ROA Seraph, he should be considered generic.
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Yeah I assumed for Isaiah purposes you could have in play in T2 at the same time:
4 x Seraphim (may band to green) (generic)
1 x Seraph with a Live Coal (unique)
4 x Angel of his Presence (generic)
I thought from an earlier thread Seraph = Seraphim (may band to green), and Seraph with a Live Coal = Seraphim (may band to blue). What was the final elder ruling? If Seraphim (may band to green) is generic, why is Seraph not considered generic when they are considered the same character?
Is this still right?
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All of those angels (Seraphs and Cherubim) should be generic, aside from Seraph with a Live Coal, as according to scripture.
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Yeah I assumed for Isaiah purposes you could have in play in T2 at the same time:
4 x Seraphim (may band to green) (generic)
1 x Seraph with a Live Coal (unique)
4 x Angel of his Presence (generic)
I thought from an earlier thread Seraph = Seraphim (may band to green), and Seraph with a Live Coal = Seraphim (may band to blue). What was the final elder ruling? If Seraphim (may band to green) is generic, why is Seraph not considered generic when they are considered the same character?
Is this still right?
Yes
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Is Seraph (ROA) generic?
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Yes. He's the one that bands to Green.
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He is not officially generic, but essentially. I assume we just disregard the REG and play it that way until it gets updated
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seraph (band to blue) is considered unique?
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Nope, generic.
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Nope, generic.
best news ever =)
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Unless the verse or title differentiates it in some way the best way to remember it is that seraph/seraphim are the silver brigade versions of Egyptian Archer.