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Redemption® Collectible Trading Card Game HQ => Official Rules & Errata => Ruling Questions => Topic started by: Master KChief on December 14, 2009, 08:29:30 PM
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shouldnt king jehoash also be listed as a king of judah? hes only listed as a king of israel.
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What basis do you have for that? He was only an Israelite King...
10 In the thirty-seventh year of Joash king of Judah, Jehoash son of Jehoahaz became king of Israel in Samaria, and he reigned sixteen years. 11 He did evil in the eyes of the LORD and did not turn away from any of the sins of Jeroboam son of Nebat, which he had caused Israel to commit; he continued in them.
12 As for the other events of the reign of Jehoash, all he did and his achievements, including his war against Amaziah king of Judah, are they not written in the book of the annals of the kings of Israel? 13 Jehoash rested with his fathers, and Jeroboam succeeded him on the throne. Jehoash was buried in Samaria with the kings of Israel.
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And Jehoash king of Judah took all the hallowed things that Jehoshaphat, and Jehoram, and Ahaziah, his fathers, kings of Judah, had dedicated, and his own hallowed things, and all the gold that was found in the treasures of the house of the LORD, and in the king's house, and sent it to Hazael king of Syria: and he went away from Jerusalem.
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Ah, I see. That verse is referring to King Joash, as you find if you read the next verse. Probably just two different English versions of the same Hebrew name. So just as there is a King Jehoahaz from each nation, there is a King Jehoash from each. It's just that the Judean King is more commonly called Joash.
18And Jehoash king of Judah took all the hallowed things that Jehoshaphat, and Jehoram, and Ahaziah, his fathers, kings of Judah, had dedicated, and his own hallowed things, and all the gold that was found in the treasures of the house of the LORD, and in the king's house, and sent it to Hazael king of Syria: and he went away from Jerusalem.
19And the rest of the acts of Joash, and all that he did, are they not written in the book of the chronicles of the kings of Judah?
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no. joash = jehoash.
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no. joash = jehoash.
Right. But the Redemption card (the 8/7 black EC with first strike) refers to the Israelite King Jehoash, not the Judean King Jehoash/Joash (who is a 7/8 Blue hero). I'm not sure where you're getting the idea that the same guy was king of Israel and Judah; they were two different guys with the same/similar names.
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ah, slight mixup. i was not aware there were two.
on another note, i do not understand why joash is a hero; he supported other gods, put zechariah to death, and he himself was murdered by his own officials.
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ah, slight mixup. i was not aware there were two.
on another note, i do not understand why joash is a hero; he supported other gods, put zechariah to death, and he himself was murdered by his own officials.
He is a hero primarily because he followed God pretty well until Jehoiada died. Then he was surrounded by bad advisers, and seemed to forget everything Jehoiada taught him. Maybe could have gone either way.
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Maybe they should give the Blue Hero an effect regarding that:
If defeated, convert character to a *whatever* brigade evil character. If Jehoiada is in play, instead set hero aside for 3 turns to gain 4/4.
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Maybe they should give the Blue Hero an effect regarding that:
If defeated, convert character to a *whatever* brigade evil character. If Jehoiada is in play, instead set hero aside for 3 turns to gain 4/4.
If they reprint Joash as a hero, he will no doubt be Purple, and if he was an EC, he would likely be brown.
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He murdered his mentors sons. I'd say he should have been evil all along.
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Maybe they should give the Blue Hero an effect regarding that:
If defeated, convert character to a *whatever* brigade evil character. If Jehoiada is in play, instead set hero aside for 3 turns to gain 4/4.
If they reprint Joash as a hero, he will no doubt be Purple, and if he was an EC, he would likely be brown.
they did. and yes, he was purple.
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Maybe they should give the Blue Hero an effect regarding that:
If defeated, convert character to a *whatever* brigade evil character. If Jehoiada is in play, instead set hero aside for 3 turns to gain 4/4.
If they reprint Joash as a hero, he will no doubt be Purple, and if he was an EC, he would likely be brown.
they did. and yes, he was purple.
Well what do you know...man, I must be losing it.
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If they reprint Joash as a hero, he will no doubt be Purple, and if he was an EC, he would likely be brown.
they did. and yes, he was purple.
Well what do you know...man, I must be losing it.
Almost like you might have other things on your mind or something. ;)