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Title: Question about Elymas (bar-jesus) the Sorcerer
Post by: adotson85 on February 17, 2009, 09:27:09 PM
Elymas (Bar-Jesus) the Sorcerer's SA reads: "Holder must discard a demon from holder's territory and may discard one Hero from each opponent's territory."

Question:  If you do not have a demon in your territory to discard what happens?  Do you still get to discard one hero from each opponent's territory?
Title: Re: Question about Elymas (bar-jesus) the Sorcerer
Post by: michael/michaelssword on February 17, 2009, 09:29:23 PM
no because you cannot fulfill the SA its like if you deck and try to use Jepthaths SA it just doesn't work
Title: Re: Question about Elymas (bar-jesus) the Sorcerer
Post by: YourMathTeacher on February 17, 2009, 09:30:21 PM
Elymas has a Play As in the REG:

Play As: Holder must discard a demon from holder's territory. If a demon if discarded, holder may discard one Hero from each opponent's territory.
Title: Re: Question about Elymas (bar-jesus) the Sorcerer
Post by: adotson85 on February 17, 2009, 09:46:01 PM
I probably should have checked the REG first, but that make since.  If Elymas had not received an errata it would have been way too overpowering. So much for that idea.
Title: Re: Question about Elymas (bar-jesus) the Sorcerer
Post by: Rubber band warrior on February 18, 2009, 09:53:28 AM
no because you cannot fulfill the SA its like if you deck and try to use Jepthaths SA it just doesn't work

I think the way it's worded, you could get away with it, hence the "play as". EBJ doesn't have a specific cost-benefit ability, just a "do this, and you may do this too if you want" kind of thing. The "Play As" makes it crystal clear though. Jephtah's SA makes it clear you have to discard a card if you want to use the rest of the SA, not so in EBJ's case, IMO.
Title: Re: Question about Elymas (bar-jesus) the Sorcerer
Post by: michael/michaelssword on February 26, 2009, 05:21:00 PM
butit says must discard a demon
Title: Re: Question about Elymas (bar-jesus) the Sorcerer
Post by: YourMathTeacher on February 26, 2009, 05:27:20 PM
butit says must discard a demon

Are you asking a question?
Title: Re: Question about Elymas (bar-jesus) the Sorcerer
Post by: TheKarazyvicePresidentRR on February 26, 2009, 06:29:20 PM
butit says must discard a demon
You must d/c a demon if you have one, regardless of anything, they could have no heroes, and you still would have to... O_O heheheheheheheheheheheheeee
Title: Re: Question about Elymas (bar-jesus) the Sorcerer
Post by: BubbleBoy on February 26, 2009, 06:31:18 PM
Hm...I think I like Tartaros a little better now.
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