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Title: proxying cards
Post by: Red on February 10, 2010, 01:57:51 PM
is it or should it be legal to proxy starter doms?i know its ok to proxy no SA lost souls.
Title: Re: proxying cards
Post by: Bryon on February 10, 2010, 02:00:23 PM
What do you mean by "OK"?  Do you mean tournament legal?  No proxies are tournament legal.

Whether your friends accept proxies in casual play is up to your friends.  Decide that before the game.
Title: Re: proxying cards
Post by: Tracer Burnout on February 10, 2010, 02:01:08 PM
For local playgroups and non-official tournaments...(for example pickupgames before tournaments or after) Proxies are fine of ANY card..However, proxies are not allowed in official (Cactus sanctioned) tournaments. 


I may be speaking over my head playtesters, but I make a lot of proxies, so I believe, from tutelage of Gabe, that this is correct. 
Title: Re: proxying cards
Post by: Red on February 10, 2010, 02:05:29 PM
say a no sa ls so you have to have the real thing? thats  kinda weird its a no sa ls
Title: Re: proxying cards
Post by: Tracer Burnout on February 10, 2010, 02:10:22 PM
say a no sa ls so you have to have the real thing? thats  kinda weird its a no sa ls

Regardless, if you allow one card to be proxied for sanctioned tournaments you will get a stampede of reasons why to allow others. 
Title: Re: proxying cards
Post by: D-man on February 10, 2010, 03:04:03 PM
say a no sa ls so you have to have the real thing? thats  kinda weird its a no sa ls
The rule has to be consistent.  No reason to allow one type of card but not another.  Where do you draw the line? Besides, if you don't have at least 7 lost souls, then you have other problems...since you get 14 in any starter. :)
Title: Re: proxying cards
Post by: Shrimpoli on February 10, 2010, 04:00:24 PM
Yeah... i think after like three weeks of playing the game when i first started i had like 20 no SA lost souls... they arent hard to find...
Title: Re: proxying cards
Post by: RTSmaniac on February 11, 2010, 12:46:54 AM
what if we allowed a proxy tournament where all players have access to any card, that way its not a question whether one player has better cards than another- but rather who plays the best!
Title: Re: proxying cards
Post by: Red Dragon Thorn on February 11, 2010, 12:48:25 AM
Um, Won't Gabe just win every time then ;)
Title: Re: proxying cards
Post by: Shofarblower on February 11, 2010, 01:19:40 AM
what if we allowed a proxy tournament where all players have access to any card, that way its not a question whether one player has better cards than another- but rather who plays the best!

We have a "Proxy tournament where all players have access to any card", It is called ROOT.
Title: Re: proxying cards
Post by: EmJayBee83 on February 11, 2010, 08:11:22 AM
We have a "Proxy tournament where all players have access to any card", It is called ROOT.

And Gabe wins every time.  ;)
Title: Re: proxying cards
Post by: Red on February 11, 2010, 08:12:31 AM
yet he already has every card.
Title: Re: proxying cards
Post by: D-man on February 11, 2010, 08:34:49 AM
So clearly, the size of your collection has no effect on whether you win. ;)
Title: Re: proxying cards
Post by: Red on February 11, 2010, 08:47:05 AM
it does when you have no NJ.
Title: Re: proxying cards
Post by: TheKarazyvicePresidentRR on February 11, 2010, 08:58:19 AM
it does when you have no NJ.
It can, but proxy-ing (at least in other games) to have a less valued card take the place of a valued one BUT you must PROVE you own the valued one.
Title: Re: proxying cards
Post by: Red on February 11, 2010, 09:42:33 AM
i can do that just not for NJ i'm talking about starter doms which i need more of
Title: Re: proxying cards
Post by: Prof Underwood on February 11, 2010, 10:48:31 AM
We have a "Proxy tournament where all players have access to any card", It is called ROOT.
And Gabe wins every time.  ;)
Oddly enough in the 6 months of this year, Gabe has only placed twice.  In fact, he's lost 2 out of his 3 games this week.  So all of you guys out there who are too scared to join ROOT because of your fear of Gabe should quit hiding and come play.  It's fun :)

This is meant to encourage people to play ROOT, not to belittle Gabe, who is still totally AWESOME and kicks my tail all the time
Title: Re: proxying cards
Post by: STAMP on February 11, 2010, 11:37:55 AM
This is meant to encourage people to play ROOT, not to belittle Gabe, who is still totally AWESOME and kicks my tail all the time

Hmmm...this calls for a new thread! (http://www.cactusgamedesign.com/message_boards/index.php?topic=19763.0)
Title: Re: proxying cards
Post by: EmJayBee83 on February 11, 2010, 12:12:36 PM
Hmmm...this calls for a new thread! (http://www.cactusgamedesign.com/message_boards/index.php?topic=19763.0)

Why is
This is meant to encourage people to play ROOT, not to belittle Gabe, who is still totally AWESOME and kicks my tail all the time
a double entendre?
Title: Re: proxying cards
Post by: STAMP on February 11, 2010, 12:26:05 PM
Hmmm...this calls for a new thread! (http://www.cactusgamedesign.com/message_boards/index.php?topic=19763.0)

Why is
This is meant to encourage people to play ROOT, not to belittle Gabe, who is still totally AWESOME and kicks my tail all the time
a double entendre?

Prof said he wouldn't "belittle" Gabe, but did.   ;)
Title: Re: proxying cards
Post by: lightningninja on February 11, 2010, 11:55:57 PM
Once again, I know you make awesome jokes and puns, but I didn't get that one.  ;)
Title: Re: proxying cards
Post by: Professoralstad on March 26, 2010, 12:14:58 PM
what does Proxy mean??

It's a pretend card you use in a deck to replace a real card that you don't have. A lot of people (myself included) have used the white instruction cards with the names of the cards I want to use written on them when testing out decks with cards we don't own. They're not tournament legal though.
Title: Re: proxying cards
Post by: Professoralstad on March 26, 2010, 01:44:00 PM
oh ok, so, on my phone i have proxy setings, what would that mean??

Honestly, I don't know what 'proxy' means in other contexts. I've really only heard the term used for Redemption, and on 24, when Chloe says a bunch of gibberish about 'proxy servers'. I'm guessing it means 'substitute' of some kind, but if you want to know, you should look it up.
Title: Re: proxying cards
Post by: Tracer Burnout on March 26, 2010, 01:55:03 PM
and on 24, when Chloe says a bunch of gibberish about 'proxy servers'.

She is my wife and I's favorite character!!!  She is so funny with no cares in the world.  This season is amazing!  Best yet. 

Sorry that this is  :offtopic:
Title: Re: proxying cards
Post by: Professoralstad on March 26, 2010, 02:06:59 PM
Best yet. 

I don't know if I'd say that, seasons 3 and 4 probably still rank as my favorite. But I do think this season got much better on Monday when we realized that

Spoiler (hover to show)

But yeah, we could probably discuss it in a different thread in the off-topic section (or Open Discussion--it has the TV equivalent rating of a PG-13 movie, but just to be on the safe side). Ruling question threads should stick to ruling questions.
Title: Re: proxying cards
Post by: BubbleBoy on March 26, 2010, 02:21:50 PM
Proxying basically means substituting. In the case of Redemption, it means to put some flat object in a card sleeve in place of a card you do not have access to. In the case of proxy servers...well, I'm not an expert on that topic, but I think a proxy server is basically like a gateway between a local network and the World Wide Web...Not sure the connection there...
Title: Re: proxying cards
Post by: EmJayBee83 on March 26, 2010, 05:24:11 PM
Proxying basically means substituting. In the case of Redemption, it means to put some flat object in a card sleeve in place of a card you do not have access to. In the case of proxy servers...well, I'm not an expert on that topic, but I think a proxy server is basically like a gateway between a local network and the World Wide Web...Not sure the connection there...
A proxy server is a server that acts an an intermediary for handling requests between a client and a server. The proxy server substitutes itself for the actual server you want to connect to.  This allows folks to keep their real servers anonymous and protected behind a surrogate and/or to control access to a resource.

STAMP! can explain this all to you.
Title: Re: proxying cards
Post by: STAMP on March 26, 2010, 06:21:38 PM
Proxying basically means substituting. In the case of Redemption, it means to put some flat object in a card sleeve in place of a card you do not have access to. In the case of proxy servers...well, I'm not an expert on that topic, but I think a proxy server is basically like a gateway between a local network and the World Wide Web...Not sure the connection there...
A proxy server is a server that acts an an intermediary for handling requests between a client and a server. The proxy server substitutes itself for the actual server you want to connect to.  This allows folks to keep their real servers anonymous and protected behind a surrogate and/or to control access to a resource.

STAMP! can explain this all to you.

MJB is my proxy.
Title: Re: proxying cards
Post by: EmJayBee83 on March 26, 2010, 07:52:15 PM
STAMP! can explain this all to you.
You really should add a ! to the end of your screen name.  STAMP! would give you quite a bit of je ne sais quois.
Title: Re: proxying cards
Post by: YourMathTeacher on March 26, 2010, 08:22:11 PM
je ne sais quois.

Bruyant!
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