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Title: Promo Samson and Toss
Post by: spacy32 on April 27, 2016, 01:04:56 PM
If enhancements without special abilities used by Samson (P) gain double value, how would that work if he gained the toss ability???


[Samson (P)]  All good gold enhancements without special abilities double in value unless a female Evil Character is in battle.

Title: Re: Promo Samson and Toss
Post by: TheHobbit13 on April 27, 2016, 01:09:10 PM
Enhancements only can gain name-on-name bonus if played in battle. Since enhancements in a tossed battle are not played but discarded from hand instead, name-on-name bonus cannot be applied.
Title: Re: Promo Samson and Toss
Post by: Minion of Jesus on April 27, 2016, 01:14:16 PM
Enhancements only can gain name-on-name bonus if played in battle. Since enhancements in a tossed battle are not played but discarded from hand instead, name-on-name bonus cannot be applied.

That would be true, but he means Samson's ability, not any name-on-name bonus.
Title: Re: Promo Samson and Toss
Post by: Ironisaac on April 27, 2016, 01:17:12 PM
name on name would work the same as his ability in this case so it would not gain double numbers. i think.
Title: Re: Promo Samson and Toss
Post by: YourMathTeacher on April 27, 2016, 01:20:25 PM
Back to the actual question (which is not about NoN), I  would think they would still double. Just realize that an enhancement printed with a SA would not count, even if the ability cannot be used.
Title: Re: Promo Samson and Toss
Post by: Josh on April 27, 2016, 01:25:37 PM
Back to the actual question (which is not about NoN), I  would think they would still double. Just realize that an enhancement printed with a SA would not count, even if the ability cannot be used.

Letters to the Churches FTW!  Now to use Training in Righteousness to make Samson (P) gain Purple and either Blue or Clay...
Title: Re: Promo Samson and Toss
Post by: Gabe on April 27, 2016, 01:32:08 PM
Or just use [Edited by R.O.S.E.S]!
Title: Re: Promo Samson and Toss
Post by: RedemptionAggie on April 27, 2016, 01:37:18 PM
Back to the actual question (which is not about NoN), I  would think they would still double. Just realize that an enhancement printed with a SA would not count, even if the ability cannot be used.

Letters to the Churches FTW!  Now to use Training in Righteousness to make Samson (P) gain Purple and either Blue or Clay...

That doesn't help, since Samson specifies good gold enhancements.

Toss uses the face value of the enhancements, so Samson should work the same as NoN.  Just feels cleaner since the increasing enhancements don't activate.
Title: Re: Promo Samson and Toss
Post by: Redoubter on April 27, 2016, 04:33:19 PM
Toss uses the face value of the enhancements, so Samson should work the same as NoN.  Just feels cleaner since the increasing enhancements don't activate.

This is the correct answer.  Toss uses the face value, and tosses the card rather than playing it.  Samson only works on enhancements that are played (put in play and activated for numbers and/or ability), so it does not apply here.

Samson does not double the value if Tossed.
Title: Re: Promo Samson and Toss
Post by: spacy32 on April 27, 2016, 10:41:22 PM
I thought so but I love the conversation it started lol. I thought it needed clarified.
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