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Redemption® Collectible Trading Card Game HQ => Official Rules & Errata => Ruling Questions => Topic started by: Lamborghini_diablo on September 03, 2011, 06:46:19 PM
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Jahaziel, son of Zechariah (Pi)
Type: Hero Char. • Brigade: Red • Ability: 9 / 10 • Class: None • Special Ability: If you have a Hero in a set-aside area, you may place an O.T. Enhancement of matching brigade from hand or discard pile on that Hero. The next time that Hero enters battle, that Enhancement activates and is discarded immediately.
Covenant with Death (FF2)
Type: Curse • Brigade: Pale Green/Brown • Ability: 2 / 4 • Class: None • Special Ability: Negate characters. Restrict players from playing Enhancements unless a character is opposed in battle. Cannot be negated.
Play
A card is considered "played" (1) when its special ability activates or (2) when it is put into play – except by a "place" special ability or a "holds" identifier.
Here is the situation. Jahaziel placed an enhancement on a hero, and then CwD is activated. When the hero with the placed enhancement enters, what happens? I think i've narrowed it down to the following:
1: The enhancement is not able to activate, but is still discarded as the discard is not contingent on the activation.
2: The enhancement just sits there until CwD is deactivated (assuming the hero and enhancement live)
3: The enhancement works normally.
My gut feeling is option 1. It has been ruled the placer heroes are an ongoing trigger. Therefore, the enhancement cannot activate as its being restricted from doing so, but the discard still occurs.
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At nationals, it was ruled that weapons could be placed on people, then when the hero went into battle, it was to late for CWD to stop it. So I would assume that it would be the same way for placed enhancements... They would work normally and then be discarded.
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Covenant with Death (FF2)
Type: Curse • Brigade: Pale Green/Brown • Ability: 2 / 4 • Class: None • Special Ability: Negate characters. Restrict players from playing Enhancements unless a character is opposed in battle. Cannot be negated.
I think the key to your question is that CwD is a Restrict, so it targets Players, not Abilities. If an enhancement placed by Jahaziel is on a hero and that hero enters battle when CwD is active, the enhancement would activate due to Jahaziel's ability, not by the Player committing a Restricted action. Placing a hero in battle is not restricted by CwD.