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Does the High Priests Palace + Crown of Thorns + the 1/3 Pharisees and Sadducees still work?  With all the game rule "changes"(clarifications, whatever) lately I am not sure what is a legal combo any more and what isn't.

IDK the 101 idea seemed like fun, yeah but when I got here several things worked that now don't.  So I have to ask before I even think of anything, to make sure its legal.

Good I like that Idea

Now lets say I play an enhancement that gives them defensive numbers and they win the battle, are they discarded?

Protect allows cards to be unaffected by specified special abilities ...

I thought it was ruled because of this passage that protect abilities cannot protect from game rule, and thus since Crown of Thorns itself does not do any discarding, HPP could not protect from it...at least, that's what I thought...

Hmm...I've never seen that before. Interesting point.

This is why I wanted the ruling confirmed, sooner rather than latter states is only a month away here in the NE.

Well, hopefully you'll have smart judges like me there.

korunks quick delete this so it still works!

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Well, hopefully you'll have smart judges like me there.

Well unless you're gonna be in MD around June 19 we are still stuck with dumb judges like me.

You know, I actually might be, no joke. My great aunt lives in Chesapeake Bay, and my little brother is going there sometime this summer on a trip to see DC and stuff, and I might be going with him since my grandma might not be able to this year, as she has with all the other kids in our family. I'm just not sure when it is...

But even if I can make it there, which is a looooong shot, I doubt you would seriously want me to judge.

I doubt you would seriously want me to judge. Roll Eyes

On the contrary I wouldn't mind in the least.  If you actually made it though I wouldn't ask you to judge, you didn't travel all that way to watch others play.  Also I usually rule by consensus, If I hit a snag where I am unsure if I am wrong I ask the other playgroup leaders(and elite players) for their input and usually we reach a agreement.

Quote from: BrianGabe on April 08, 2010, 02:21:20 PM

obviously I'm not. always right.

That's true. Sometimes you are right in non-obvious ways.  

This is what happens when someone with fat thumbs and bad eyesight tries to type on a little phone with a small screen.

I think the REG quote is pretty conclusive, but I guess I would like an official's word.

Since HPP was designed to protect them from discard because of Crown of Thorns, I still rule my tournaments the way Gabe just described.

"Protect from discard" includes protection from discard by any means (discard special abilities, game rule after decrease special abilities, etc.).

"Protect from discard abilities" protects ONLY from discard by a discard special ability.

If the rules are changed to make protect ONLY protect from special abilities, then we'll have to revisit Enoch, too, right?  Plus, I'll be sad that another card doesn't do what it was designed to do. 

Since HPP was designed to protect them from discard because of Crown of Thorns, I still rule my tournaments the way Gabe just described.

"Protect from discard" includes protection from discard by any means (discard special abilities, game rule after decrease special abilities, etc.).

"Protect from discard abilities" protects ONLY from discard by a discard special ability.

If the rules are changed to make protect ONLY protect from special abilities, then we'll have to revisit Enoch, too, right?  Plus, I'll be sad that another card doesn't do what it was designed to do. 

I agree with this conclusion. It makes protection easier to understand. Does this mean, however, that Protection of Angels will protect a hero in a battle determined BTN? I would think so, but I'm not sure.


Protection of Angels
Type: Hero Enh. • Brigade: Silver • Ability: 2 / 3 • Class: None • Special Ability: Interrupt the battle and protect all Heroes in play and set aside areas from evil cards until end of turn. • Identifiers: OT, Involves Music • Verse: Psalms 91:11 • Availability: Priests booster packs (Common)

I always assumed PoA worked to protect the heroes from the numbers on evil cards.

I always assumed PoA worked to protect the heroes from the numbers on evil cards.

If Bryon says it protects from numbers, then PoA protects from numbers.  At least until a new REG comes out, or Rob makes a ruling.  Those are the only 2 things that have more weight to than a Bryon ruling.

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My great aunt lives in Chesapeake Bay

What kind of oxygen tank does she use?  Or, is she an aquatic animal?

She lives in a lighthouse, silly.

Quote from: YourMathTeacher on April 12, 2010, 05:46:31 PM

She lives in a lighthouse, silly.

So, aquatic, then.

Aquatic human, yes. Kind of like Aquaman, except without the cool animal telepathy thing..... and she's a woman.....  

And Aquaman wears orange and green shorty-shorts ... he's knocking on the door, far as I'm concerned.

He would definitely win the award for lamest SuperFriends member if it weren't for those pesky Wonder Twins.

I mean seriously, if given the superpower to become the shape of anything you could possibly imagine, who else would have "shape of a pail of water" be about the best thing they could come up with to defeat the bad guys.  What is this, the Wizard of Oz?

Thankfully the Wonder Twins were dropped before the new Justice League series.  Although that does put Aquaman up at the top of the lameness scale now...

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My great aunt lives in Chesapeake Bay

What kind of oxygen tank does she use?  Or, is she an aquatic animal?

Actually, she is a marine biologist and is studying a new species of crustaceans in the area.

Quote from: The Schaef on April 12, 2010, 07:17:48 PM

And Aquaman wears orange and green shorty-shorts ... he's knocking on the door, far as I'm concerned.

He would definitely win the award for lamest SuperFriends member if it weren't for those pesky Wonder Twins.

I mean seriously, if given the superpower to become the shape of anything you could possibly imagine, who else would have "shape of a pail of water" be about the best thing they could come up with to defeat the bad guys.  What is this, the Wizard of Oz?

Thankfully the Wonder Twins were dropped before the new Justice League series.  Although that does put Aquaman up at the top of the lameness scale now...

lameo yes but that was how there power worked it had to be water based.

Quote from: The Schaef on April 12, 2010, 10:18:21 PM

Quote from: BubbleBoy on April 12, 2010, 10:09:14 PM

Actually, she is a marine biologist and is studying a new species of crustaceans in the area.

? ?

Are you calling my aunt a mutant lobster?

According to Dave Barry, world famous deep thinker, lobsters are mutant ants (or mutant insects of some type at any rate)...

I am pleased to report that the scientific community has finally stopped wasting time on the origins of the universe and started dealing with the important question, which is: Are lobsters really just big insects?

I have always maintained that they are. I personally see no significant difference between a lobster and, say, a giant Madagascar hissing cockroach, which is a type of cockroach that grows to approximately the size of William Howard Taft (1857-1930). If a group of diners were sitting in a nice restaurant, and the waiter were to bring them each a freshly killed, steaming-hot Madagascar hissing cockroach, they would not put on silly bibs and eat it with butter. No, they would run, retching, directly from the restaurant to the All-Nite Drive-Thru Lawsuit Center. And yet these very same people will pay $24.95 apiece to eat a lobster, despite the fact that it displays all three of the classic biological characteristics of an insect, namely:

1. It has way more legs than necessary.

2. There is no way you would ever pet it.

3. It does not respond to simple commands such as, ``Here, boy!''

Ant is how we pronounce Aunt around here anyway.