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Title: Paul set aside
Post by: Irish_Luck on April 29, 2011, 12:05:55 AM
If Paul is set aside does he return as Saul since he reenters play?

Saul (Ap)
Type: Evil Char. • Brigade: Gray • Ability: 11 / 10 • Class: None • Special Ability: This card enters play as Saul. When Saul repents he becomes Paul. • Errata: (Treat special ability as an identifier.) • Play As: This card enters play as Saul. When Saul is converted by any means he becomes Paul (at face value). • Identifiers: NT Male Human, Pharisee (Rome), Prophet, This card enters play as Saul. When Saul repents he becomes Paul. • Verse: Acts 8:3 • Availability: Apostles booster packs (Ultra Rare)
Title: Re: Paul set aside
Post by: JSB23 on April 29, 2011, 12:12:55 AM
No,
A converted character is converted for the rest of the game
Title: Re: Paul set aside
Post by: Minister Polarius on April 29, 2011, 02:00:14 AM
What he means is, characters only reset in deck, hand, or discard pile, not from being set aside.
Title: Re: Paul set aside
Post by: Irish_Luck on April 29, 2011, 08:22:25 AM
If Paul is set aside does he return as Saul since he reenters play?

Saul (Ap)
Type: Evil Char. • Brigade: Gray • Ability: 11 / 10 • Class: None • Special Ability: This card enters play as Saul. When Saul repents he becomes Paul. • Errata: (Treat special ability as an identifier.) • Play As: This card enters play as Saul. When Saul is converted by any means he becomes Paul (at face value). • Identifiers: NT Male Human, Pharisee (Rome), Prophet, This card enters play as Saul. When Saul repents he becomes Paul. • Verse: Acts 8:3 • Availability: Apostles booster packs (Ultra Rare)

This  was the part that threw me off. I know that normally cards stay converted until they either hit the deck or another card causes to. I just thought that since he reenters play his special ability would turn him back into Saul.
Title: Re: Paul set aside
Post by: SomeKittens on April 29, 2011, 09:42:03 PM
It looks like he'd reenter as Saul.  While Polaris is right in general, Saul specifically says otherwise.
Title: Re: Paul set aside
Post by: JSB23 on April 29, 2011, 10:02:42 PM
It looks like he'd reenter as Saul.  While Polaris is right in general, Saul specifically says otherwise.
It's clarifying text
Title: Re: Paul set aside
Post by: YourMathTeacher on April 29, 2011, 10:13:42 PM
It looks like he'd reenter as Saul.  While Polaris is right in general, Saul specifically says otherwise.
It's clarifying text

The errata says it is an identifier, not an ability, so it can not be clarifying text. However, it is the identifier for the card called Saul (notice the quoted card title). Once Saul becomes Paul, you read the Paul REG entry (which does not have that identifier):

Paul (Ap)
Type: Hero Char. • Brigade: Multicolor • Ability: 10 / 10 • Class: None • Special Ability: May not be poisoned. All enhancements played on Paul may not be interrupted, negated or prevented. • Play As: Protect Paul from poison abilities. All enhancements played on Paul cannot be negated. • Identifiers: NT Male Human, Pharisee (Rome), Prophet •
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