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Title: Older versions of cards
Post by: slugfencer on December 06, 2010, 10:35:21 PM
So the starter deck Laban--(9/9 vanilla) wouldn't he be considered a magician since his reprint is?


The following Redemption® characters are considered magicians:

•      (Good): The Magi (FF)

•      (Evil): Damsel with Spirit of Divination (TP), Enchanter (TP), Astrologers (TP), Balaam (Di), Chaldeans (P), Damsel with Spirit of Divination (Pr), Elymas (Bar-Jesus) the Sorcerer (Ap), Elymas the Sorcerer (Di), Enchanter (Pr), Jambres (Pi), Jannes (Pi), King Manasseh (Di), Laban (P), Manasseh (Pr), Pharaoh's Magicians (Pa), Simon the Magician (Ap), User of Curious Arts (TP), Users of Curious Arts (Pr), Witch of Endor (Pr), Witch of Endor (Wa), and Wizards (Pr)
Title: Re: Older versions of cards
Post by: RTSmaniac on December 06, 2010, 10:38:25 PM
Laban (P)
Type: Evil Char. • Brigade: Gray/Pale Green • Ability: 2 / 7 • Class: None • Special Ability: You may exchange your female Genesis Hero with opponent's male, human Hero for 7 turns. Limit twice per game. • Identifiers: OT Male Human, Magician (Syria-Aramea) • Verse: Genesis 31:2-3 • Availability: Promotional cards (2010 State Tournament)

Man i want to convert this guy...
Title: Re: Older versions of cards
Post by: TheJaylor on December 06, 2010, 10:57:49 PM
I would assume that you are correct if it has the same verse and it's the same guy not just another guy named Laban, which is highly unlikely but wutev
Title: Re: Older versions of cards
Post by: Alex_Olijar on December 07, 2010, 12:03:46 AM
He is a magician, just not in the REG for some reason.
Title: Re: Older versions of cards
Post by: Gabe on December 07, 2010, 12:56:50 AM
He is a magician, just not in the REG for some reason.

+1
Title: Re: Older versions of cards
Post by: The Guardian on December 07, 2010, 03:37:04 AM
That REG needs to be updated anyway since it was ruled that Heroes (such as The Magi) are not "magicians" in Redemption.
Title: Re: Older versions of cards
Post by: SomeKittens on December 07, 2010, 12:51:12 PM
What are they then?
Title: Re: Older versions of cards
Post by: Professoralstad on December 07, 2010, 01:10:12 PM
What are they then?

If you ask 5 different biblical scholars what they were, you'll probably get 6 different answers. If you ask the average American, he'll probably say they were kings from China...
Title: Re: Older versions of cards
Post by: Prof Underwood on December 07, 2010, 03:01:50 PM
What are they then?
And just FYI, I have heard that the magi actually could have been students under the great prophet Daniel during the Babylonian Captivity Period for Judah. Therefore, they would be "Wise Men".
I do find your theory to be quite interesting that they were wise men from Babylon who had been taught in a "school of Daniel" sort of thing.

As for magicians, I think this is a broad name back then for anyone who did anything that didn't make sense to people.  That would include scientists who were studying nature and trying to understand it as well as sorcerers who were trying to use powers of darkness in order to control things.  I have always seen the Magi of the Christmas story more along the lines of scientists.  I don't have any problem with Redemption defining magicians more specifically as people who use magic in an evil way.
Title: Re: Older versions of cards
Post by: browarod on December 07, 2010, 05:50:44 PM
So can we create the "Scientist" identifier?
Title: Re: Older versions of cards
Post by: SomeKittens on December 07, 2010, 05:53:04 PM
Yes, but that would be inherently evil too.

(The above is a joke)
Title: Re: Older versions of cards
Post by: browarod on December 07, 2010, 06:03:04 PM
Yes, but that would be inherently evil too.

(The above is a joke)
So make it "Christian Scientist".  ::)
Title: Re: Older versions of cards
Post by: Rawrlolsauce! on December 07, 2010, 06:08:06 PM
So make it "Christian Scientist".  ::)
+1. Then listen to "Rap Music", as any other form of music is "pretty ugly". Sorry for the quotations, I'm just trying to be "Politically Correct".


:P
Title: Re: Older versions of cards
Post by: Ammian on December 07, 2010, 06:10:33 PM
So make it "Christian Scientist".  ::)
+1. Then listen to "Rap Music", as any other form of music is "pretty ugly". Sorry for the quotations, I'm just trying to be "Politically Correct".


:P

You guys are "hilarious."
Title: Re: Older versions of cards
Post by: Rawrlolsauce! on December 07, 2010, 07:12:54 PM
Hilarious shouldn't have been in quotes, but thanks for the comments, despite that being "old news".  You seem "pretty smart" to recognize that, just like my good friend "President Obama". Or it could be because "American Culture" is so advanced and anyone could recognize that.

On a side note, I love this thread now. It is "serious fun".
Title: Re: Older versions of cards
Post by: SomeKittens on December 07, 2010, 07:18:06 PM
You guys are "hilarious."
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