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Redemption® Collectible Trading Card Game HQ => Official Rules & Errata => Ruling Questions => Topic started by: bruce2213 on April 25, 2011, 01:10:15 AM
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If the hero, Ahimaaz who's special ability is "holder may look at one opponet's hand...Hero may then withdraw from the battle unharmed..." is used, does opponent have the chance to present the evil character, Job's Wife which has the special ability of "All special abilities on character cards.... are negated and prevented..." If the answer is "no", is there any other way to negate, prevent, or redirect this hero's special ability if he is choosing to withdraw? Does the battle not take place due to his option to withdraw?
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Ahimaaz's ability must complete, so yes, you get to look at their hand and withdraw if you want before they can negate it. If they do decide to negate it, it's not really like you can forget what's in their hand, and the withdraw ability has already been skipped.
You can prevent a withdraw ability though. Perhaps they rescued with another hero, and tried to band in Ahimaaz with Numerous as the Stars. Ahimaaz couldn't withdraw in this case.
The battle takes place. Should you withdraw, things like Chariots of Fire works (following Rescue Attempt).
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So if Ahimaaz is used alone, there is no way to prevent his special ability from happening?
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Unless you use a card that negates him before battle, such as Confusion of Mind, Image of Jealousy, Destructive Sin, etc... then yes, you cannot stop him from leaving battle.
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I dont know why it is ruled that after Ahimaaz/Rhoda/ect withdraw from battle that the battle automatically enters battle resolution and then discard phase, but it does. That seems like NPE to me...
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I dont know why it is ruled that after Ahimaaz/Rhoda/ect withdraw from battle that the battle automatically enters battle resolution and then discard phase, but it does. That seems like NPE to me...
There is no hero to block. When absolutely nobody is in battle, there isn't much of a battle to fight is there?
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what if i block with a BtN character and negate your withdraw ability, therefore pulling you back into battle? or use a card like Am Slave or Uknown Nation to pull out an EC just to utilize thier SA? sounds fair with combos like Spy+Warriors Spear working as well...Why does that work again? It would seem that the spear never had a chance to activate because there isnt a hero in battle? Asahael+Spy w/Spear makes a better argument b/c there is at least someone tto activate the SA of Spear on...
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You can't block a hero that isn't there. He's in territory. No hero is in battle.
Spy + Spear I disagree with, but the ruling was "Did it enter battle?" "Yes" "Was it negated" "No" "So...do what it says."
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I would argue why does the battle move to resolution step? because hero withdrew? I say if a hero enters a battle phase (no matter if he withdraws) that both players have to agree to move to the resolution step.
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They do. The one can't block because no hero is in battle, the other didn't want to battle anyway, so they're done. Unknown Nation says "If an opponent's hero is in battle" and Am Slave can't block a hero that isn't there.
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Am Slave can't block a hero that isn't there.
I argue that he should be able to.
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Except for the Taunt ability, Evil Characters cannot enter battle if there is not a Hero present.
Argue all you want, that isn't going to change. :)