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Redemption® Collectible Trading Card Game HQ => Official Rules & Errata => Ruling Questions => Topic started by: JDS on August 22, 2010, 08:32:28 PM
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Nazareth: Protect cards in your territory and hand from shuffle by an opponent. Protect all decks from search abilities.
Revealer: When you draw this card, each opponent must reveal the top two cards of his draw pile. Place each revealed Lost Soul in owner's Land of Bondage. Place the rest beneath owner's draw pile.
Is revealing the same as searching?
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I think so but I'm no expert
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No, Revealer is not A.) Shuffling anything B.) Searching for anything.
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inclined to agree with kittens and say no
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Somekittens is (are?) correct.
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Hey guys,
Bryon is correct.
El Amor,
Salsa
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Is Susanna's ability a search ability?
Susanna: Look at the top X cards of deck. May add one to hand. Place the rest beneath deck. Cannot be negated.
I'm guessing yes, since the play as says search, but some people were saying to disregard play as.
Play As: Search the top X cards of deck for any one card. Holder may place it in hand. Place the rest beneath deck. Cannot be negated.
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yes, we now have the freedom to disregard play as as we see fit.
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Again one of the hardships Mike B. has to face when trying to correlate this game with the monsterous REG. Can we just take a moment to thank Mike on all the hard work he done to make this thing work? Thank you Mr. Berkenpas.
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Again one of the hardships Mike B. has to face when trying to correlate this game with the monsterous REG. Can we just take a moment to thank Mike on all the hard work he done to make this thing work? Thank you Mr. Berkenpas.
Nope, more rage.
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/nerdrage
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What about Eve vs Nazareth?
Eve: Reveal the top X cards of deck. Add to hand all revealed humans. Eve ignores female Evil Characters.
It seems weird that Eve would work but Susanna would not, but that's what I'm leaning toward.
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What about Eve vs Nazareth?
Eve: Reveal the top X cards of deck. Add to hand all revealed humans. Eve ignores female Evil Characters.
It seems weird that Eve would work but Susanna would not, but that's what I'm leaning toward.
I agree with Eve would and Susanna would not, bad wording is bad.
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I think they work. Susanna isn't a search ability. It is "look at some cards from your deck and take one" ability.
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I would consider that a search ability, even though it's just not searching the entire deck.
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I think they work. Susanna isn't a search ability. It is "look at some cards from your deck and take one" ability.
Susanna doesn't show your opponent what you're looking at, it's a search ability.
Vs. Eve who reveals the cards.
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I agree. It is a non-traditional search ability, but you are doing the same thing as a Search ability, just in the top X cards.
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Hey,
There has been some consideration towards making "Look at" a separate ability from "Search." But we have not yet made that happen. Look at is currently just a search ability with different wording.
Tschow,
Tim "Sir Nobody" Maly
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Hey,
There has been some consideration towards making "Look at" a separate ability from "Search." But we have not yet made that happen. Look at is currently just a search ability with different wording.
Tschow,
Tim "Sir Nobody" Maly
I don't see any reason why they would need to be different. They provide essentially the same function, and if Nazareth is able to limit Susanna, more power to it.
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I think they work. Susanna isn't a search ability. It is "look at some cards from your deck and take one" ability.
Then I'm going to "look at the top 48 cards" of my 56-card deck and play them all at the same time. I win.
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I think they work. Susanna isn't a search ability. It is "look at some cards from your deck and take one" ability.
Then I'm going to "look at the top 48 cards" of my 56-card deck and play them all at the same time. I win.
Not really....
Look at the top X cards of deck. May add one to hand. Place the rest beneath deck. Cannot be negated.
http://redemption.wikia.com/wiki/Susanna (http://redemption.wikia.com/wiki/Susanna)
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but it still would be fun to look at the top 48 cards of deck.
;D
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Sure. Just get 48 female NT heroes in play.
(waits for Lambo to make a deck)
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(waits for Lambo to make a deck)
LOL.
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Then I'm going to "look at the top 48 cards" of my 56-card deck and play them all at the same time. I win.
Not really....
Look at the top X cards of deck. May add one to hand. Place the rest beneath deck. Cannot be negated.
http://redemption.wikia.com/wiki/Susanna (http://redemption.wikia.com/wiki/Susanna)
They would just be put back in the same order..... :o
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Actually you get to choose the order.
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Actually you get to choose the order.
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It's just one of those things that seems epic, but very hard to put into practice. Nice ability though, CBN is always fun. Usually for me, it's more like "Draw a card"
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It's just one of those things that seems epic, but very hard to put into practice. Nice ability though, CBN is always fun. Usually for me, it's more like "Draw a card"
When one card counts, NJ or SoG is only 3 cards down.
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Unless you've got three redeemed souls, NJ in hand, and opponent draws the revealer. Then SoG is only two cards down.
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Unless you've got three redeemed souls, NJ in hand, and opponent draws the revealer. Then SoG is only two cards down.
Still too far.... Seems like all the games I lose either SoG or NJ is at the bottom of my deck or only 3 or 4 cards down.
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I agree that look at should be considered a search ability- like someone said bad choice of words. should have been reveal ability i think. Its so hard to do her ablilty on RTS. My opponent draws x and places cards under deck. how do i know thier not placing cards not looked at under?