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Title: Momentum Change?
Post by: CJSports on March 22, 2011, 08:54:14 PM
What is the definition of the evil character losing in the battle?
Title: Re: Momentum Change?
Post by: RTSmaniac on March 23, 2011, 12:10:19 AM
very good question sir
Title: Re: Momentum Change?
Post by: YourMathTeacher on March 23, 2011, 12:18:41 AM
From the Glossary:

Defeat
Defeat is caused when a character’s toughness is less than or equal to an opposing character’s strength. A defeat also occurs when a character is stopped from achieving his goal in battle. A Hero(es) is defeated when the Hero(es) in battle are discarded, repelled or otherwise fails to make a successful rescue such as in a stalemate. The Evil Character(s) is defeated when the Evil Character(s) in battle are discarded, ignored or otherwise fails to stop the Hero from making a successful rescue such as in a mutual destruction by numbers.
Title: Re: Momentum Change?
Post by: Minister Polarius on March 23, 2011, 04:49:55 AM
He didn't ask about being defeated, he asked about losing. Does playing DoU result in a loss for the now-Discarded EC who did stop the RA?
very good question sir

QFT
Title: Re: Momentum Change?
Post by: Red Dragon Thorn on March 23, 2011, 05:03:41 AM
We've always ruled it as a loss since the character was discarded - However I'm not sure how we came to that conclusion, or if it should be played that way. I'll have to do some reading in the old threads about it.
Title: Re: Momentum Change?
Post by: The Schaef on March 23, 2011, 07:31:57 AM
DoU causes the EC to lose the battle, which is not the same thing as the rescue attempt succeeding.
Title: Re: Momentum Change?
Post by: YourMathTeacher on March 23, 2011, 10:13:41 AM
He didn't ask about being defeated, he asked about losing. Does playing DoU result in a loss for the now-Discarded EC who did stop the RA?

Losing is being defeated.

We've always ruled it as a loss since the character was discarded - However I'm not sure how we came to that conclusion, ...

Most likely from the quote I gave above, particularly the bolded part.
Title: Re: Momentum Change?
Post by: SomeKittens on March 23, 2011, 01:38:08 PM
It'd work kinda like this scenario:
You defeat me via whatever means.
I bury the LS.
EC lost?  Yup.
RA successful?  Nope.
Title: Re: Momentum Change?
Post by: CJSports on March 23, 2011, 02:59:48 PM
What is DoU?
Title: Re: Momentum Change?
Post by: Noah on March 23, 2011, 03:06:40 PM
What is DoU?

Death of Unrighteous.
Title: Re: Momentum Change?
Post by: CJSports on March 23, 2011, 03:07:47 PM
Oh right, my bad.
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