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Title: Matthew & AOCP
Post by: Mr. Tumnus on April 16, 2012, 11:44:35 PM

Matthew (Di) has the ability to recur "a good enhancement with a Matthew reference on it and place it beneath deck."  So he can do so with the original Authority of Christ with its Mt. 8:27 reference.  The question is what about the AOC Promo (which has no such reference?)  I guess the bigger question is do promo cards that are unmarked by any verse retain their older version reference?  (i.e. Harvest Time- Warriors vs. promo)

Title: Re: Matthew & AOCP
Post by: Drrek on April 16, 2012, 11:46:42 PM

I believe Matthew cannot recur AoCP

Title: Re: Matthew & AOCP
Post by: lp670sv on April 16, 2012, 11:47:06 PM

Band Matthew to Thomas and AOC is CBN anyway  8) (don't have an answer to your question, guessing no)

Title: Re: Matthew & AOCP
Post by: soul seeker on April 16, 2012, 11:47:10 PM

No, he cannot return AoCP.  Based on that ruling, then promos without verses on them do not retain their original verse references.

Title: Re: Matthew & AOCP
Post by: MitchRobStew on April 16, 2012, 11:49:09 PM

It was ruled that Matthew cannot recur Authority of Christ.  The thread is here.  This is due to AOCP not having a reference.

http://www.cactusgamedesign.com/message_boards/ruling-questions/matthew-vs-aocp/ (http://www.cactusgamedesign.com/message_boards/ruling-questions/matthew-vs-aocp/)

Title: Re: Matthew & AOCP
Post by: Redoubter on April 17, 2012, 07:11:37 AM

Quote from: MitchRobStew on April 16, 2012, 11:49:09 PM

It was ruled that Matthew cannot recur Authority of Christ.  The thread is here.  This is due to AOCP not having a reference.

http://www.cactusgamedesign.com/message_boards/ruling-questions/matthew-vs-aocp/ (http://www.cactusgamedesign.com/message_boards/ruling-questions/matthew-vs-aocp/)

Correction: Authority of Christ can be recurred as it has a reference.  The Promo cannot.

Title: Re: Matthew & AOCP
Post by: CJSports on April 17, 2012, 11:02:04 AM

So since it does not have a reference then could it be considered a testament-less enhancement.

I.E. Could Spirit as a dove search for it?

Title: Re: Matthew & AOCP
Post by: soul seeker on April 17, 2012, 11:07:09 AM

For consistency purposes, I would say no.

Title: Re: Matthew & AOCP
Post by: Professoralstad on April 17, 2012, 12:02:28 PM

I know that the characters without references are considered to have their appropriate testaments, but not sure about enhancements. I would tentatively say yes, but not 100%.

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Title: Re: Matthew & AOCP
Post by: megamanlan on April 17, 2012, 02:27:40 PM

As far as I know, AoCP is a NT Card, it's just not from a specific book.

Title: Re: Matthew & AOCP
Post by: Korunks on April 18, 2012, 11:44:27 AM

Quote from: megamanlan on April 17, 2012, 02:27:40 PM

As far as I know, AoCP is a NT Card, it's just not from a specific book.

This is how it has been traditionally ruled, it was mentioned in the original thread where this was discussed.  Let me see if I can find it.