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Redemption® Collectible Trading Card Game HQ => Official Rules & Errata => Ruling Questions => Topic started by: Jmbeers on August 12, 2013, 01:13:30 PM
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I know King David is a King of Israel but is also a King of Judah?
The Kingdom didn't divide until after David's reign.
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Nope (http://www.cactusgamedesign.com/message_boards/ruling-questions/saul-and-david-not-listed-as-kings-of-judah/5/)
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Even though he was a King of Judah for 7 years before he became King of Israel, apparently the answer is no.
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To rehash the other thread with respect to the final answer on things:
1. "King of Judah" is Redemption shorthand for being king of the southern country after the split following Solomon's death
2. David was king of the area of the tribe of Judah for 7 years before becoming king of all Israel
3. The locations in points 1. and 2. above are not the same country (though they obviously share the majority of their locations) and so Redemption treats them as separate
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The last thread seemed heated, it's why I was just leaving this alone.
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It's a touchy topic. Redemption's definition of Judah has been seen as going against scripture in the case of David.
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I was just asking to see if the new Solomon's temple could cover David, but it can't so I just moved on with the concept.
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That would be wrong on another level entirely. Not sure it would have been a good idea for a king to be protected by a temple that's construction hadn't started until after the king's death.
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That would be wrong on another level entirely. Not sure it would have been a good idea for a king to be protected by a temple that's construction hadn't started until after the king's death.
Especially if it was a temple which that king had been specifically been told by God NOT to build.
The names Israel and Judah are used in the Bible with various meanings. Israel can refer to the specific person of Jacob. It also can refer to all 12 tribes descended from him. It also can refer to the country before it divided during the time of Rehoboam. It also can refer to the Northern Kingdom after the split.
Judah can refer to the specific person who was a son of Jacob. It can refer to the Tribe that descended from him. It also can refer to the Southern Kingdom after the split.
Redemption had to choose 1 definition for the "king of Israel" and "king of Judah" identifiers, and it made the most sense to go with the last definitions for both of those terms, since that is what applies to almost all the kings in the game. I understand that it is possible to find places in the Bible where the words are used differently, but the current ruling is consistent, clear, and concise. I think that's a pretty good thing :)