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Title: Is Malchus a Sadducee?
Post by: JDS on August 20, 2010, 11:56:29 AM
The High Priests' guards are considered sadducees, are their servants?
Title: Re: Is Malchus a Sadducee?
Post by: Smokey on August 20, 2010, 12:00:10 PM
High Preist's Maid isn't, I would say no unless only female servants aren't allowed to be Saducees.
Title: Re: Is Malchus a Sadducee?
Post by: Professoralstad on August 20, 2010, 12:01:46 PM
High Preist's Maid isn't, I would say no unless only female servants aren't allowed to be Saducees.

She isn't currently, but I could definitely see where both could be identified as such, especially if Temple Guard is classified as one.
Title: Re: Is Malchus a Sadducee?
Post by: Gabe on August 20, 2010, 12:23:57 PM
Neither of them are Sadducees.  I've tried to get them both classified that way in the past and failed to convince TPTB.  ;)
Title: Re: Is Malchus a Sadducee?
Post by: JDS on August 20, 2010, 12:28:45 PM
Malchus was among the other officers of the Chief Priests, I can't see how he's not considered a sadducee like the Temple Guard.

Not sure about Chief Priest's Maid.
Title: Re: Is Malchus a Sadducee?
Post by: The M on August 20, 2010, 01:04:40 PM
i would give it to the pros and it could go either way...
Title: Re: Is Malchus a Sadducee?
Post by: BubbleBoy on August 20, 2010, 01:11:18 PM
I think either Temple Guard and Malchus should both be Sadducees, or neither should be.
Title: Re: Is Malchus a Sadducee?
Post by: Prof Underwood on August 20, 2010, 02:18:33 PM
Neither of them are Sadducees.  I've tried to get them both classified that way in the past and failed to convince TPTB.  ;)
But have you tried since you became a PTB?  ;)
Title: Re: Is Malchus a Sadducee?
Post by: frisian9 on August 21, 2010, 12:30:41 AM
Malchus was a servant of a Sadduccee, not a Sadduccee.

Temple Guard is a guard and was never named a Sadduccee. I don't know why he was classified as one. Because he is printed on the card as a Sadduccee, that will have to be a mystery never to be solved. In short, it will have to stick.

Mike
Title: Re: Is Malchus a Sadducee?
Post by: BubbleBoy on August 21, 2010, 07:36:03 AM
Malchus was a servant of a Sadduccee, not a Sadduccee.

Temple Guard is a guard and was never named a Sadduccee. I don't know why he was classified as one. Because he is printed on the card as a Sadduccee, that will have to be a mystery never to be solved. In short, it will have to stick.

Mike
I agree that TG should remain classified as a Sadducee, but I also think that Redemption should work its standards around that. I hate "exceptions to the rule".
Title: Re: Is Malchus a Sadducee?
Post by: SirNobody on August 21, 2010, 10:30:58 AM
Hey,

We do have precedent of a card having an identifier on the card and the identifier being errataed off (King Ahaz).  Although if you say Temple Guard isn't a sadduccee then the G deck has a crimson enhancement that can only be used by one black evil character and a black enhancement that can only be used by one character in the deck.

Tschow,

Tim "Sir Nobody" Maly
Title: Re: Is Malchus a Sadducee?
Post by: Smokey on August 21, 2010, 11:18:37 AM
Hey,

We do have precedent of a card having an identifier on the card and the identifier being errataed off (King Ahaz).  Although if you say Temple Guard isn't a sadduccee then the G deck has a crimson enhancement that can only be used by one black evil character and a black enhancement that can only be used by one character in the deck.

Tschow,

Tim "Sir Nobody" Maly

So, for next year... New starter decks so we can fix this?  ;D
Title: Re: Is Malchus a Sadducee?
Post by: RTSmaniac on August 22, 2010, 01:19:28 AM
a little random- G/H sealed decks with 3 disciple packs...how good would that be?
Title: Re: Is Malchus a Sadducee?
Post by: Arch Angel on August 22, 2010, 01:39:51 AM
a little random- G/H sealed decks with 3 disciple packs...how good would that be?
Terrible if you got the G deck.
Title: Re: Is Malchus a Sadducee?
Post by: Gabe on August 22, 2010, 07:47:47 AM
a little random- G/H sealed decks with 3 disciple packs...how good would that be?
Terrible if you got the G deck.

Really?  You wouldn't be happy to add any of the awesome brown/gold stuff from Disciples to your defense?  What about an Aaron that can band to your Moses?  Or Eli's Sound Advice?  That all seems pretty amazing to me! ;D
Title: Re: Is Malchus a Sadducee?
Post by: Smokey on August 22, 2010, 08:31:37 AM
a little random- G/H sealed decks with 3 disciple packs...how good would that be?
Terrible if you got the H deck, and prepare to lose the game you're about to play and a few after.

Fixed.
Title: Re: Is Malchus a Sadducee?
Post by: Arch Angel on August 22, 2010, 01:11:25 PM
a little random- G/H sealed decks with 3 disciple packs...how good would that be?
Terrible if you got the G deck.

Really?  You wouldn't be happy to add any of the awesome brown/gold stuff from Disciples to your defense?  What about an Aaron that can band to your Moses?  Or Eli's Sound Advice?  That all seems pretty amazing to me! ;D
The G deck has NT Crimson/Black on defense, and an OT Green/Gold offense. The H deck has a NT Purple/White offense (featuring 2 disciples already), and an OT Gold/Brown defense.

Main cards good of G deck offense: Aaron, Behold the Lamb, John the Baptist, Kindness
Main cards good for G deck defense: Disbelieving Sadducees, Philetus, Peter's Curse (I guess), Questioning Christ's Authority, Scribe, Tennants Kill the Son, Herod's Temple

Main cards good for H deck: ... almost everything else.

The odds are weighted heavily in H's favor.
Title: Re: Is Malchus a Sadducee?
Post by: Smokey on August 22, 2010, 01:17:07 PM
Even if there are more useful cards to G deck, H deck is better by itself...
An Aaron moses band would be almost impossible to deal with in sealed.
Title: Re: Is Malchus a Sadducee?
Post by: The M on August 22, 2010, 03:21:34 PM
well then lets not do it...
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