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Title: Involves Music Q
Post by: Master Q on May 27, 2017, 03:31:24 PM
From the REG:
Quote
Several Redemption® cards refer to cards “involving music”. A card involves music if it
does one of four things:
● Represents all or part of a song or Psalm.
● Represents an event that was noted for its music.
● Represents a musical instrument or singing.
● Represents a character who is identified as a musician.

Does this mean that Music Leader cannot fetch Musicians' Chambers? That seems wrong.

The real Q I have is this: If the REG is updated to account for Musicians' Chambers - (possibly change the second bullet to: Represents an event [or place] that was noted for its music) - then how many of the temples should gain the 'involves music' tag? Surely at least Solomon's Temple and The Heavenly Temple, right?
Title: Re: Involves Music Q
Post by: Ironisaac on May 27, 2017, 04:20:48 PM
I personally think they all should, but at least Heavenly, solomon's, and the tabernacle.
Title: Re: Involves Music Q
Post by: The Guardian on May 30, 2017, 03:28:37 PM
Hmm, the omission of Musician's Chambers was an oversight in the REG that I noticed back in 2015, but it appears it did not get corrected. I have added it to the list of REG 5.0 corrections.

The other temples did not come up in that discussion--for the moment those do not fall under "involving music."
Title: Re: Involves Music Q
Post by: Ironisaac on May 30, 2017, 03:54:16 PM
The other temples did not come up in that discussion--for the moment those do not fall under "involving music."

Some verses to consider next time you discuss this with the elders.
from 1 Chronicles 6:32-
"They ministered with music at the Tabernacle until Solomon built the Temple of the Lord in Jerusalem. They carried out their work, following all the regulations handed down to them."
from 1 Chronicles 9:33 -
"The musicians, all prominent Levites, lived at the Temple. They were exempt from other responsibilities since they were on duty at all hours."

They were literally living there, doing nothing but making music. seems to me like they should be musical. :2cents:
Title: Re: Involves Music Q
Post by: Master Q on May 30, 2017, 04:12:13 PM
The other temples did not come up in that discussion--for the moment those do not fall under "involving music."

I was just thinking about 24 Elders and that detailed LoR article on Heavenly Temple/earthly temple counterparts. Makes it seem pretty clear there's a lot of music going on, yes?
Title: Re: Involves Music Q
Post by: Gabe on May 30, 2017, 04:19:24 PM
I totally agree that if we just go by the english definition of "involves" and "music" that it seems like these fortresses will qualify. But for Redemption purposes a definition was created that doesn't seem to include "places where music was played". At present they don't qualify based on the definition the game uses.

We will definitely look into the pros and cons of adjusting that definition with the next REG update.
Title: Re: Involves Music Q
Post by: Minister Polarius on June 03, 2017, 06:03:26 PM
That's not a fair categorization. The argument is that part of the function of the Temple was specifically for the creation and recitation of music, not that "music was played there."
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