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Title: Ignore vs. Immune Question
Post by: EmJayBee83 on May 04, 2009, 12:24:32 PM
OK, so the following I understand...

Scenario #1--If my character is immune to your character and then you play a card that makes your character ignore my character then we have a stalemate situation.

Scenario #2--If my character is ignoring you and then you play a card that makes your character immune to my character then I win the battle.

Here's my question...

What happens if I am ignoring you then you interrupt the battle and play an immunity card? Are we in a scenario #1 situation or a scenario #2 situation?

Here's an example...

a. I make an RA with Claudia.    (SA doesn't matter, not choosing to band.)
b. You block with The False Prophet.  (Gray brigade big dude--no SA)
c. I play Pillar of Fire.  (Ignore gray brigade.)
d. You play Lurking (interrupt the battle and band) and band in Emp. Nero.  (Immune to lone heroes)
Title: Re: Ignore vs. Immune Question
Post by: TimMierz on May 04, 2009, 12:44:12 PM
Your example makes it a "scenario #1" situation, because the immunity activates before the ignore (thanks to the interrupt).
Title: Re: Ignore vs. Immune Question
Post by: Cameron the Conqueror on May 04, 2009, 01:25:16 PM
+1
Title: Re: Ignore vs. Immune Question
Post by: The Schaef on May 04, 2009, 01:38:30 PM
indeed.  Ignore first means your immunity does nothing because you already are not (otherwise) being affected by me.  Ignore second means your unaffectableness is added to my unaffectableness, but you cannot add the other aspects of ignore (specifically, the "I win the battle" aspect) because my immunity does not allow you to target me.

In your scenario, you are interrupting, and then placing the immunity in before the ignore.  Meaning you cannot be targeted by the "I win the battle" aspect of ignore.
Title: Re: Ignore vs. Immune Question
Post by: EmJayBee83 on May 04, 2009, 02:01:07 PM
Cool. That's just what I thought, but I wanted to make sure.
Title: Re: Ignore vs. Immune Question
Post by: metalpsalm on May 05, 2009, 11:16:10 AM
this is one of the coolest and hardest things to keep straight in Redemption
Title: Re: Ignore vs. Immune Question
Post by: FresnoRedemption on May 05, 2009, 03:59:45 PM
I have a question. If your evil character is already immune to my hero, and my hero suddenly ignores your evil character, wouldn't I still win the battle and get a Lost Soul, since your character immune to mine is now being ignored anyway? Doesn't ignore treat the Evil Character as if it's not even there?
Title: Re: Ignore vs. Immune Question
Post by: BubbleBoy on May 05, 2009, 04:02:43 PM
Yes, but the immunity makes the ignore not affect the EC.
Title: Re: Ignore vs. Immune Question
Post by: EmJayBee83 on May 05, 2009, 09:54:52 PM
I have a question. If your evil character is already immune to my hero, and my hero suddenly ignores your evil character, wouldn't I still win the battle and get a Lost Soul, since your character immune to mine is now being ignored anyway? Doesn't ignore treat the Evil Character as if it's not even there?

Nope.  BubbleBoy gives the underlying reason why.

    Immune then Ignore ==> Stalemate
    Ignore then Immune ==> Ignorer Wins.
Title: Re: Ignore vs. Immune Question
Post by: FresnoRedemption on May 06, 2009, 11:45:55 AM
Okay.
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